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Old 12-03-2012, 02:29 PM   #1
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Talking Rascal!

I think getting her to take her nose off the ground is as likely as the moon turning to green cheese.
We put a Gentle Leader on her today and there is 100% difference in the pulling! I still like her a little bit ahead of me when we walk so I don't miss picking up her poop and at the end of our walk I am holding the leash to help me stay steady too.
Is having the Gentle Leader on and the Easy Walker on (not attached together) I bit like wearing suspenders and a belt?
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:42 PM   #2
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Im gonna be honest I am not as happy about the easy walk as I am about the gentle leader. Reason being that the easy walk sometimes bothers dogs much more.

Id say just stick to the gentle leader..
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:17 PM   #3
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When I first started Obedience classes in the Park, Lucy was worse than any hound for sniffing everything. What I did was have treats and make her walk without putting her nose down for a while, then release her to sniff around. Gradually she got better so when I started Agility with her, she is really good when she is focused. When we are just standing around and there has been horses in the arena, I have to work really hard to get her nose up but once we start doing equipment she forgets to sniff.

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I have never tried the gentle leader. Might just be me but I don't want something on her face and it seems it would bother her much more. Monkey probably has more experience though.
I, personally, don't care how much sniffing Sadie does and let her go out in front and sniff to her hearts delight within reason.
She did pull a lot if she saw another dog or people or cats but with the easy walk she stops without pulling hard and is much better.
What I don't like about it is that it is hard to fit well on her, the snap that is supposed to hook to her collar is difficult for my old hands, and if I'm not alert and the leash is on the wrong side it will pull around her butt when she pees and then she ends up peeing on the leash. I use a retractable leash hooked only to the front and not the double thing.
Using both seems like overkill to me but then we aren't working in arenas or competition or something.
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Chessie was never a puller but she is probably the most scent-driven dog I have ever met. Remember she has actually walked into the back bumpers of parked cars as she was so intent of following a scent that she wouldn't pick her head to see where she was going. As well, back when I got it for her, she had undergone her THR and paying attention to where she was going so as not to stumble or fall during the long recovery period was important. The Gentle Leader headcollar has been a fantastic solution for her. When she sees me get the leash and collar, she comes right over and sticks her nose into the loop all by herself!
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:07 PM   #6
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We learned about the gentle leader when we adopted Lucy. I think we will continue to use it for a long while with Rascal.
Eventually we will go to the easy walker when we are both more trained. I don't plan to stop with this one class. I think hubby would enjoy agility too. I am just not agile enough for that!
There is plenty of time. We just got her November 2nd barely a month ago.
We just got back from the vet.
Now I am hoping she has fleas Rascal has some sort of allergy. Never thought I would hope for fleas! lol
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I've never used an easy walk halter before, nor am I familiar with how exactly they work, but I would be willing to trust Monkey's experiences with it.

I use a gentle leader whenever I walk my german shepherd or take her out. She's not a puller, but being out in public can make her anxious and a bit unpredictable, so I have one on there for my own safety. She's a big dog almost weighs as much as I do; if she decided to bolt and throw all her weight in one direction, it could be dangerous to the both of us. The gentle leader is just a safety precaution.

Like I said, I don't have experiences with the easy walk harness. But your safety is number 1 here, followed by rascal's safety. If the gentle leader gives you control and you feel safe and are able to walk her without fear of falling or getting pulled over, then there's no reason you should have to stop using it or switch to anything else.
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:30 PM   #8
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Thank you Sugardog.
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I think with the gentle leader Rascal is getting leash trained at least. Given my abilities, maybe that's all I can hope for.
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techie while I 'understand' your concerns about your ability to train Rascal I think possibly you are under estimaitng your self After all you are a second dog owner where Iam only a first time dog owner! You are quite a long standing member on here and no longer a newbie. if it hadn't been for this wonderful forum I don't know where i would have turned to for help/advice And Nipper could have been rehomed but i have stuck through the good and bad times and have done very well with Nipper and 5 years later I am still learning! Aim higher techie as I know you can master Rascal Good luck!
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