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View Poll Results: After reading the entire article do you believe the early nanny dog claims?
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:10 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by gspdad View Post
Apples I grew up the same as you but in the 60s and 70s in a rural area. Our dog was never on a leash or a chain.
I can remember many times at a very young age being alone with the dog, Old Boot was my consant companion. That dog followed me every where but school.

Boot was never on a chain, He was also a dog that would bite you if you came into his yard and until you called him you had better stay in your car. But after we knew some one was there he was ok with them. And this same dog was free to roam and be alone with me and other small children.
Boots was my childhood dog, If you saw Boots you knew my brother or I were nearby. She went everywhere we did--even on trail rides. She was a Boston terrier and fox terrier mix. She didn't bite though!

A well trained dog will make no attempt to share your lunch.

He'll just make you feel guilty while you're eating it.

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Old 06-14-2012, 07:47 PM   #22
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Not at all since I don't believe that anyone with plain old common sense ever entrusted the safe care of their child completely to a dog as a babysitter or nanny. I'm questioning when things reached the point that it is commonly recommended that no young child should never ever be left unsupervised in the presence of a dog or dogs!

As I mentioned in another thread; when I was a kid in the late 30's through the 40's, the kids and family dogs were allowed to go outside to play after breakfast. I should clarify that statement to include that not all the neighborhood dogs were deemed safe with kids and dogs, so those dogs naturally were kept at home.

In a neighborhood full of kids and stay-at-home moms there were always several pairs of somewhat distant eyes on them; yet the kids and dogs were allowed to play and interact to their hearts content without anyone hovering over them. Sure there were a few nips and scratches from time to time from rough games of tug-of-war, hide and seek etc. but there were no incidents of actual dog attacks or deliberate bites with any of the kids. My own kids were raised in pretty much the same way until stay at home moms became a rarity.

It's my guess that the end of that era was the beginning of the "never leave a dog alone with a child era". From that point on dogs were much more restricted in their socialization and didn't have the opportunities to interact with children in such large numbers. As a result IMO in today's world we see far more fearful and unsocialized dogs than we did in those days. And as we all know fear often leads to aggression. Along with that, with the increased advantage of instant communication and education we're much better informed about the possibiliity of dog bite than we were 50 or 60 years ago.
I see. I don't really think this is something I can relate to, as I grew up in the forest, more or less. No neighbor dogs around to play with, and no neighbor kids to play with our dogs.

Well, not quite that desolate. But having friends over meant a 3-4 mile walk (for both of us, we met in the middle and walked together to one of our houses - things have to be fair after all!). While the dogs were certainly free to join in the fun I don't think I'd call it unsupervised though. There was always an adult around somewhere. I'm pretty sure...

When I was very little we had a Karelian Bear Dog (well, that was the claim, but judging by photos I'd say he must've been crossed with a Saint Bernhard - or a Great Dane!) who was trained to pull me on a little homemade sulky. Apparently I one day woke up from my midday nap (we're talking very young here) and couldn't find anyone around, and became frightened. My father was just dealing with the boiler or something but I didn't know that and he didn't hear me screaming. Somehow I managed to harness the dog to the sulky and set out with him for my grandmother's house, and the general consensus seems to be that the dog must have been the one who knew how everything was supposed to fit together, and helped me arrange the whole thing, because I was far too young to have figured any of it out by myself. I guess you could call that dog a nanny dog, although it wasn't intentional.
(My father spotted us just as we got on the road. I'm still alive, after all.)

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No leash laws when I was growing up in the mountains of Kentucky, and most dogs roamed the sub-division (which is how I lost my first dog, a little terrier mix). But most of us weren't out running around unsupervised as kids until we were 8 to 10 years old, and even then we were generally at someone's house. We were around the dogs all the time but we weren't extremely small kids. Of course my friend's Border Collie mix did chew up my Barbie Doll, but that's another story, LOL.

It seems that a lot of the really bad incidents these days are happenening with younger kids being unsupervised with dogs. Toddlers and large dogs with no adult in the room and a problem occuring. By the time the neighborhood rabble I grew up with was roaming free with our furry buddies we knew the basics like not teasing a dog, not pulling their tail, how to let a strange dog meet you.

There have been enormous changes in what kids are permitted to do, and animals as well. Leash laws are to keep dogs and people from mutual harm and irritation. But of course the milk carton kids and what they represented changed the way kids were watched by parents within a decade after I was a child. My sister is 9 years younger than I am and she never got the experience of running free in the neighborhood, and her dog was a tiny house dog that never left the yard as opposed to my middle-sized mutt.

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Old 06-16-2012, 02:50 AM   #24
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Growing up in the rural area, dogs were left free. Alsmost everyone we knew hunted and had English Setters, pointers, or both (we usually had both). Some families ahd hound dogs. I remembr one family had a collie and the first Peke I ever saw and I thought it the oddesdt dog in the world. It didn't appear to have legs, but went around likie a bumble weed.

We kids played all the time with our dogs. We would tie them to the little red wagon and pretned we were going west--of course nobody was in the wagon, but some of our"gear" wa. Other times we made 'Packs" and attached them to the dogs baks an they were our pack mules. Ohter time times we just roamed the fields with them.

None could be considered a gaurd dog in any form or fashion--like my golfdens, ever one that came to our house came to see them and they greeted the people at their car, All jhhad collars with ID tags and their rabies tags, but we didn't have leashes--just used a cord or piece of string or rope.My uncle kept hsi bird dogs penned and his kids were not allowed to pay with them--it was his opinion that if kids played with the dogs it woudl ruin them for hunting My dad believe the opposite--it made them want to please us more becaue we paid somuch attention to them. And oddly, my unlce loved to"borrow" our dogs to hut with.!

But at any rate, our dogs neer bit, they enjolyed playing with us, it didn't ruin their hunting at all, but I just can't see how anyone could think a dog of any breed could be a "nanny" to kids...playmate yes, nanny nol.
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