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Kyllobernese · 05-14-2009, 01:14 AM

In our Obedience class tonight there was a wiry coated solid black dog. I asked them if it was an Airedale cross. They were a little insulted and informed me that it was a purebred Airedale and they had papers for it.

As far as I know Airedales only come in black and tan and if it was a purebred it was a poor specimen. It had a very lowset tail, poor ear set and just did not look a lot like a Airedale. Do they come in solid black?

I have looked up the Standards and see nothing about the color solid black.

April · 05-14-2009, 03:37 AM

Had a look at some Airedale sites & they all say black or grizzle & tan only.

barbiespoodle · 05-14-2009, 03:56 AM

Breed sites usually just give acceptable show coloration, it doesn't mean that other colors might not pop up from time to time. I don't know airedales enough to know if it is possible for an all black to occur, but I do know poodles, after being around them both in the show and pet aspect for 34 years now I've learned a few things about them, and if you look at most poodle sites, it will say they a solid color with shade variations permited. Yet here I am with my Chewie, who is my sig pic.

I too get asked contantly what he is crossed with. I also use to get insulted but have learned to mellow. It's much nicer to ask someone what their dog is than to automatically assume it's a cross just because it doesn't confirm to what is considered desirable in a breed. As far as the airedale having faults, well my Chewie isn't the greatest standard poodle, his tail set is too low, his feet are flat, and his eyelids aren't as tight as they should be, but he's still my dog and I love him.

vixen · 05-14-2009, 04:40 AM

I searched on google and came across a couple of sites

http://www.hkairedales.com/black_airedales.htm

http://www.tenkillerairedales.com/

http://www.bairedales.com/

very interesting as I never knew they came in this colour before.

applesmom · 05-14-2009, 10:55 AM

Just another of example of greedy breeders hyping "new" and "rare" colors like the silver labs have done, just so they can charge ridiculous prices and sell more puppies .

Quote:

Again, AKC doesn’t recognize solid Blacks or Reds, or Black and Tans out of one of these litters. They are usually registered with SKC, CKC, UKC, APRI, etc

Which are primarily puppy mill and mixed breed registries.

http://www.tenkillerairedales.com/

lassie · 05-14-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by applesmom

Just another of example of greedy breeders hyping "new" and "rare" colors like the silver labs have done, just so they can charge ridiculous prices and sell more puppies .

Which are primarily puppy mill and mixed breed registries.

http://www.tenkillerairedales.com/

yep. like the "tuxedo" poodles adverised local to me.

Kyllobernese · 05-14-2009, 12:16 PM

I never thought about one of these bogus registries as it is probably registered with the CKC alright but probably Coninental Kennel Club not the Canadian Kennel Club.

Barbiespoodle. I would never look at your parti poodle and think it was anything but a poodle but this "black" Airedale did look like it had something else in it, not just because it was black. I think the problem is once they start breeding for a rare or unusual color only, they sometimes tend to keep the dog regardless of its' faults but because of the color. I know the owners will love their dog regardless and I certainly did not make any other remarks on anything but it's color, that I had never seen a black Airedale.

lassie · 05-14-2009, 12:20 PM

quote from UK standard re' colour
Colour
Body saddle black or grizzle as is top of the neck and top surface of tail. All other parts tan. Ears often a darker tan, and shading may occur round neck and side of skull. A few white hairs between forelegs acceptable

sheplovr · 05-14-2009, 10:25 PM

I have never heard of an all black Airdale. I bred this breed many years back now and they have black and tan color only. If you want to read about the true Airdale Terriers bred properly this link will tell you also.

http://dogbreedinfo.com/airedale.htm

April · 05-15-2009, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheplovr

I have never heard of an all black Airdale. I bred this breed many years back now and they have black and tan color only. If you want to read about the true Airdale Terriers bred properly this link will tell you also.

http://dogbreedinfo.com/airedale.htm

Yes, shep, that's one of the links I found.

05-14-2009, 01:14 AM	#1
Kyllobernese Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 887 Rep: 14 Unique Rep: 4	Black Airedale Terrier In our Obedience class tonight there was a wiry coated solid black dog. I asked them if it was an Airedale cross. They were a little insulted and informed me that it was a purebred Airedale and they had papers for it. As far as I know Airedales only come in black and tan and if it was a purebred it was a poor specimen. It had a very lowset tail, poor ear set and just did not look a lot like a Airedale. Do they come in solid black? I have looked up the Standards and see nothing about the color solid black.

05-14-2009, 03:37 AM	#2
April Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney N.S.W Posts: 3,383 Rep: 36 Unique Rep: 17	Had a look at some Airedale sites & they all say black or grizzle & tan only. __________________ Thanks to skunkstripe for my beautiful, new, siggy. I HAVE BEEN KISSED!! sheplovr. thanks "I'm chillin' with the forum! "thanx sheplovr "I've been fleeced by Draco!" thanx. http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt...k/ebe4/age.png

05-14-2009, 03:56 AM	#3
barbiespoodle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 588 Rep: 27 Unique Rep: 11	Breed sites usually just give acceptable show coloration, it doesn't mean that other colors might not pop up from time to time. I don't know airedales enough to know if it is possible for an all black to occur, but I do know poodles, after being around them both in the show and pet aspect for 34 years now I've learned a few things about them, and if you look at most poodle sites, it will say they a solid color with shade variations permited. Yet here I am with my Chewie, who is my sig pic. I too get asked contantly what he is crossed with. I also use to get insulted but have learned to mellow. It's much nicer to ask someone what their dog is than to automatically assume it's a cross just because it doesn't confirm to what is considered desirable in a breed. As far as the airedale having faults, well my Chewie isn't the greatest standard poodle, his tail set is too low, his feet are flat, and his eyelids aren't as tight as they should be, but he's still my dog and I love him. __________________ I HAVE BEEN KISSED!! sheplovr...thanks honey "I've got the do you?" "I'm chillin' with the forum! "

05-14-2009, 04:40 AM	#4
vixen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 1,246 Rep: 29 Unique Rep: 13	I searched on google and came across a couple of sites http://www.hkairedales.com/black_airedales.htm http://www.tenkillerairedales.com/ http://www.bairedales.com/ very interesting as I never knew they came in this colour before. __________________ Owned by Max the dog Lex, Titch, Tallie and Trio the ferrets Foxy the gerbil Rio the leopard gecko Many stick insects see thread http://www.dogforum.net/other-pets/3...ct-babies.html If ya gonna buy Please only buy from health tested dogs, weather it be pure or a cross I've been kissed "I've got the do you?" thanks sheplovr

05-14-2009, 12:20 PM	#8
lassie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England Posts: 3,534 Blog Entries: 1 Rep: 38 Unique Rep: 20	quote from UK standard re' colour Colour Body saddle black or grizzle as is top of the neck and top surface of tail. All other parts tan. Ears often a darker tan, and shading may occur round neck and side of skull. A few white hairs between forelegs acceptable __________________ Love is a ruffie:

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05-14-2009, 12:16 PM	#7
Kyllobernese Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 887 Rep: 14 Unique Rep: 4	I never thought about one of these bogus registries as it is probably registered with the CKC alright but probably Coninental Kennel Club not the Canadian Kennel Club. Barbiespoodle. I would never look at your parti poodle and think it was anything but a poodle but this "black" Airedale did look like it had something else in it, not just because it was black. I think the problem is once they start breeding for a rare or unusual color only, they sometimes tend to keep the dog regardless of its' faults but because of the color. I know the owners will love their dog regardless and I certainly did not make any other remarks on anything but it's color, that I had never seen a black Airedale.

05-14-2009, 10:25 PM	#9
sheplovr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 9,482 Blog Entries: 28 Rep: 230 Unique Rep: 88	I have never heard of an all black Airdale. I bred this breed many years back now and they have black and tan color only. If you want to read about the true Airdale Terriers bred properly this link will tell you also. http://dogbreedinfo.com/airedale.htm __________________ "Don't make the mistake of treating your dogs like humans, or they'll treat you like dogs." ~PAT~

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