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View Poll Results: What do you call small Jack Russells?
Small 18 85.71%
Mini 3 14.29%
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:50 PM   #11
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One of the ways puppy mills make money is to sell dogs that are just small as "mini" or some other improper term. They do this with shelties, too.

There is no such thing as a "mini" sheltie or a "mini" JR. They may be small for standard, but they are just small shelties or JR. Just like some people are smaller than others.

Nobody should fall for this scam. They are not worth any more money than any pet quality Jack or Sheltie would be.
I'm on a site for working Lurchers as I couldn't find one for normal lurcher's that wasn't a rescue site, and then when I joined one of them I felt out of place as mine aren't rescues, any way there are quite a few people there who breed the mini jacks for working as they go down the holes easier etc, and I do like how they look.

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Buying a JRT from working breeders will not guarantee you a healthier dog... and mos people who breed them to work will have no interest in health testing their dogs... and to be honest as far as I know their is no registered health problems with the breed, cant find any breed ethics to confirm this......dont get me wrong, they will and can suffer with many of the issues other breeds do.. Luxating Patella... being one of them...
The reason that I say that I think that working stock will be more healthy as to be honest they would not bother with unhealthy stock, some people keep them anyway but not breed, some rehome, and some others cull them, but they would not be able to work them, and because of that they would not breed them, as most often you wouldn't buy from non-working parents if you get what I mean, they would want to buy from the best parents that they can, and the breeders would not want to be stuck with excess dogs, especially if there excess dogs were unhealthy as the cycle would start again, so I would trust them dogs more then going to someone who just thought that they would put x over y, when you are following most people prove their dogs working ability and go off that, and show people their dogs working ability when they are planning to breed, so that more people want their dogs, again I don't think that a unhealthy dog would be a good worker, so not worth breeding.
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:50 PM   #12
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not been on for a while but am back now and noticed this thread....I own and breed JRTs and I hate the terms mini and teacup they are just used to market dogs for sale. JRTs have no breed standard and come in all shapes and sizes.
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Someone asked me if Simba was a 'miniature collie' - and no, they didn't mean a sheltie. I explained she was a pure collie and they asked who was breeding mini ones (grr)

JRTs where I'm from vary so much in size, there's just big ones, little ones, long ones, short ones....all just as good at hunting rats!
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Have not voted as JR `s come in such a wide variety that small or large is not enough.

Some will be smaller, some larger , some wired haired , some have straight longer legs, some have small queen anne legs.. long bodied small bodied.. the list goes on.

Unless you are buying a Parsons Russel, (pedigree) you will have no idea what your pup will end up like..even if it comes from two smaller parents.. it could be longer legged, broken coated.

Buying a JRT from working breeders will not guarantee you a healthier dog... and mos people who breed them to work will have no interest in health testing their dogs... and to be honest as far as I know their is no registered health problems with the breed, cant find any breed ethics to confirm this......dont get me wrong, they will and can suffer with many of the issues other breeds do.. Luxating Patella... being one of them...

But the main reason for breeding these dogs is to work...and as long as the parents of the litter are good workers that is all most breeders will be concerned about.

And sadly many will also breed for money.. the JRT is a very popular dog in the UK, they are easy to breed and easy to sell, you will find many many country folk, will own and breed them.. from the terrier men, to farmers, horsey people... and a lot of these people breed for the pocket money they will get from the matings..

You can look in your local paper on any given day and find at least one litter of Russells... most will go for around 100...

Good post. I recently got a JRT pup. He's now six months old. I also own three whippets one who has had terrible health problems so I was concerned about getting something that was not going to be sickly.

The only two things my vet mentioned was a problem with knees and eyes. He told me that I would have to be extremely unlucky to encounter either of these. Essentially JRT are an extremely healthy breed.

As far as temprement is concerned, whilst it will vary from dog to dog, they seem to be fairly sound. Playful and full of fun but not nasty. My boy lives with three whippets and is accepted as one of the gang.

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Since there isn't any size standard I'd just call it a Jack Russel Terrier and let it go at that.
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They're just jack russels as far as I know them. All the farm bred JRTs I've known have been the smaller, often short-legged kind - the bigger, longer legged ones are usually Parsons terriers where I'm from
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I'm with those who cringe at the terms mini, teacup, sleeve, pocket, whatever. Those are puppy mill terms to sell dogs at a higher price. In my area of dogs, it's the teacup poodles. By AKC rules, any poodle 10 inches or under is a TOY poodle, there is no classification for teacup. So personally, I would just call your JR a JR and not put some puppy mill title on it.
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some Jacks have queen anne legs.

We had a tiny JR years ago when i was a kid (cost us 6 guineas!)and she lived to 20!
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Personally, I couldn't care less how big my dog is or what title some people wish to give these animals. As far as I am concerned the only important factor is that you have a happy, healthy and contented dog. If you have got all of those things does it really matter what size he/she is.

My JRT's mum was quite a large bitch, his dad somewhat smaller. I don't think, at present, he will be as big as his mum. It doesn't matter one jot. He still comes and licks my face in a morning, happy to see me and have a cuddle. That is what counts.

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I call all JRs that are smaller then the box that a wii comes in mini, as to me they are miniture dogs but to me JRs are cheap and cheerful dogs if you get what I mean, not one that anyone would or should pay more to have as it is smaller. And to me they are also a lot smaller then some of the big JRs and are mini in comparaision lol.

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