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Old 05-20-2007, 01:18 PM   #1
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Its been awhile since I have posted so I'll give you an update on Hardy. Our little big man is coming along well. I think he's 11 wks now a Shepherd/Rotti. He is a master of Sit and is getting much better at Stay, I can actually tie my shoes with him in a Sit/Stay. his Leash work has improved 10 fold and can be taken on quiet pleasant short walks. we've got him trained to sit at the curb and wait for us to cross. He is mostly a good boy . Most people who have met him say what a calm well behaved dog he is, and he really is around other people, in different surroundings but. In our house, about twice a day he goes mental. All in good fun but he still get in out of control play bitting fits. After Yelping in pain, crossing arms and ignoring does absolutely nothing, he will just get in a tug a pant leg (and some times a bit a skin) war. I've read a million different posts and articles on the subject and this is what I've been doing

First. Get him to sit than distract his attention to a chew toy, praise and reward him If he goes after the toy.

Second. If he comes back at us and nips I will scream like it hurts and pick him up and put him in his crate for 5mins. He really doesn't like his crate and wines and cries. I will repeat this step if when I let him out he comes at us again.

Usually it takes two cratings to calm him down. In your opinion is this to harsh? He is only playing and really doesn't like this correction. I really don't want to loose the respect of my Dog.

Things I haven't tried with him:

-Pennys in a Can

-Bitter spray

any comments on these would be great.

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My border collie puppy did the same thing, but only once a day, we called it her funny five minutes, she'd mouth, be very hyper and nip etc. You shouldnt use the crate as punishment ever, so i wouldnt do that, id say shut her out of the room you are in, so she is isolated and calms down. Your first method sounds brilliant IMO, also the coins in a can sounds like a good idea if you got the timing just right. when my puppy did it id do the crossing of the arms and ignoring thing - but it didnt have any effect, so id shut her outta the room and let her in 5 mins later, paying her no attention. best of luck with him, dont worry i think its quite normal
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Hi BenM, nice to see you back.

I think you are doing ok - 11 wks is a young age, and is also the WORST age as far as nipping. This is when they are teething so it hurts them terribly.

Putting him in the crate as punishment is going to get him to dislike the crate so I don't think htis is a good idea. If you feel you must put him away somewhere, pick a suitable room, but try not to get him to assoicate the crate with something "bad" lest you have headaches down the road from him not liking the crate.

Make sure he has plenty of chew toys, maybe even put them in the freezer to help with the pain. I would try very hard to stuff an ice cold chew toy into his snout when he nips, especially at this age.

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I know crating him as a punishment is a bad idea. But the only Room I have thats truly puppy proof is the kitchen, we do have it baby gated but is hard to ignore him there. I do have a spare bedroom off the kitchen that I will try to puppy proof.

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I'd stock up on chewy toys & would also put the in the freezer. Maybe some filled Kong toys or even frozen carrots. I'd try to redirect him by giving him one of those to chew on but he's intent on initiating play in that manner with you, I'd start tossing balls & playing other games.

I definitely agree that you do not want to crate him as any form of punishment at any time. Nothing wrong with the baby gate though — when Ozzy is acting up, he has to "go to the Kitchen!" (LOL, seemingly a fate worse than death & he has to stay in there in a "down stay" for 5 or so minutes).
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Glad I read this as Harley does the same thing, although the nipping is stopping now, I go to bite her back lol. She hates it, comes back and says sorry!

Also if she bites your pants, can't you tuck your legs underneath you so he can't get at them? Harleys trainer suggested this!

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