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Old 04-27-2007, 12:59 PM   #1
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I've been trying to get my 13 week pup used to sleeping indoors. Right now she prefers sleeping on a bean bag on the balcony. I got a crate for her a while ago. And i've been putting her in it every so often for an hour or two.

Last night i put the crate in my bedroom next to my bed and tried to get her to sleep in there when i went to bed. Didnt work too well. She didn't whine constantly, but she kept giving little whines every once in a while. And she would get up and turn around every few minutes. And she was panting like crazy (it wasnt warm in the room and she had some water before bed). Soon as i let her out of the crate, she calmed down and wasnt whining or panting.

I let her out because i was a little worried with all that panting that she might be over-heating or something.

Is this normal for a puppy? Should i just put her in there at night and just ignore her till morning (except for a bathroom break)? I gave her a cookie and one of her raw hide bones when i put her in there but she wasnt too interested.

Should i drag the bean bag from the balcony and put that in there with her since she usually sleeps on that when she's outside?

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Old 04-27-2007, 01:02 PM   #2
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why don't u try feeding her in the crate but not shutting the door for a week or so that she gets used to the crate and see's it as something positive as she is getting fed in there.

my dog hated his crate at first now hes nearly two but he still sleeps in there even though he doesn't have to he just love his crate
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Old 04-27-2007, 01:26 PM   #3
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Sometimes pups will whine if you keep their crate in your bedroom & can see you during the night. I'd try it in another room to see if you have better results.

In the daytime, I'd try training games to get her to enjoy the crate leaving the door open. Then, every now & then close the door to the crate & leave her for 5 minute stretches & let her out, then 10 minutes, etc.
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I tried feeding her in there, but i didnt do it often enough. I think i only did it twice. I wish it were a tiny bit narrower so i could drag it into the living room during the day. But i have to partially collapse it to get it through the bedroom door.

Maybe i'll drag it back out for a week while she eats in it and then move it back to the bedroom.

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Sometimes pups will whine if you keep their crate in your bedroom & can see you during the night. I'd try it in another room to see if you have better results.

In the daytime, I'd try training games to get her to enjoy the crate leaving the door open. Then, every now & then close the door to the crate & leave her for 5 minute stretches & let her out, then 10 minutes, etc.
Hmm, i thought if she saw me she'd be less likely to whine. What if i just cover the crate with a sheet? I want to be sure she can wake me if she has to go to the bathroom, thats why i wanted her in the room.

What do you mean by training games?

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My dogs have always slept in my bedroom...with or without a crate. They have slept on the floor, not on my bed, if they have not been in a crate.

Getting a dog accustomed to a crate takes persistence and patience. As a general rule, I never feed my dogs while they are "in crate". They have an old towel or blanket for a bed and a soft dog toy to cuddle up with.

In my method of crate training a puppy, I give the command, "Crate" and point to the open crate door. Initially, to help the puppy understand the command, I gently move the puppy through the crate door. Once the puppy is successfully inside the crate, I immediately say, in a soothing voice, "Good Crate", as I am closing the door. At first the crate time is minimal - a few minutes at a time, several times a day.

The routine is always the same...the minute the puppy and I enter my bedroom, the very first command is, "Crate". It isn't long before my pup heads straight for the crate when it enters my bedroom.

I don't suggest covering the crate, especially with a pup. The pup will likely shred the covering by pulling it into the crate and playing with it. I did have a pup who tried to whine and turn in circles to get out of the crate. After a couple of sharply voiced "NO" commands, she laid down and slept through the night without another whimper.

I take the stand that I am the top dog and I lead the pack, whether the "pack" is just me and the dog or the "pack" is sevral humans and a dog (or more dogs). Dogs, by nature, follow a pecking order in a pack. They look for leadership and guidance. So, when your pup does as you command (not ask), respond with Good Sit, Good Stay (or whatever the command was). If you pup is behaving in a way that you do not accept, a sharply voice "NO" command is the first step in stopping the unwanted behavior. Until the pup understands that "NO" means stop the behavior, it will help to physically stop the pup (example: take the pups mouth off the furniture leg it had been chewing while commanding, "NO"). Soon enough, the pup will get the idea that "NO" means to stop.

I hope these ideas help.

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I dont think her shredding it will be a problem. I've had it on there every time i've tried to put her in there and she's ignored it. She's tried to pull it off once when she was out of the crate though. I stopped her.

I'll try your approach in training to go in the crate. I dont have much hope for the 'no' command in getting her to quiet down. Especially since she's not really whining or doing anything specific, other then being restless and what sounds like nervous (from the panting).

I'd be perfectly fine with her sleeping on the floor or even on the bed, but i'm sure if i try that I'm going to wake up in the morning with a large wet spot on the floor somewhere.

Hmm, maybe i shouldn't cover the crate. Since she's used to sleeping outside maybe thats part of the problem. She might be used to sleeping in an open space. So maybe i'll try that too.

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What do you mean by training games?

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Games with a Kong toy or plushie toy toss them inside the crate making them a game of fetch. The point being a fun game going inside & out at her will. Then, I'd stuff a Kong toy with a good treat, toss it inside the crate, get her inside & close the door to enjoy it. Leave the crate closed for 5 or 10 minutes & let her back out for another game of fetch inside & out of the crate.
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will do. Looks like i'll be making a pit stop at petsmart for some more toys today.

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I'd be perfectly fine with her sleeping on the floor or even on the bed, but i'm sure if i try that I'm going to wake up in the morning with a large wet spot on the floor somewhere.
Is that the only reason you want her to be in the crate? if so, you may want to weigh out the options... if she is fairly well house-trained then an accident here or there isn't a big deal...

when I first got Sammy I tried to crate train him, but he hated it SO much that I thought, "what's the point?" and I couldn't think of any good reasons to keep doing it, so I abandoned it. He doesn't chew, doesn't mess in the house (unless something is wrong), etc.

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