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Old 04-09-2007, 01:10 AM   #1
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Hello, I just found this forum after looking for some info on orphaned puppies.

I was about to leave for work earlier this morning and found an easter gift, a
new puppy dog. I believe this is a Rottweiler.



I found him on our front lawn left in the cold. He was shivering really badly but soon after he settled in the house, he was doing fine.

He came in with a worn-down, very dirty dog carrier, a towel and a nursing bottle(quarter full).

It seems to me he is probably 7-21 days old. His eyes are already opened. I weighed him around 1.5 ounces. The scale I have is a very old and I'm pretty sure it's not accurate.

He's very energetic and playful, runs around and loves to climb on my head, trying to bite and suck/lick my fingers at the same time(is this a clue for his age?)

My problem is that I don't have any experience with orphaned puppies this young. The youngest I had was about 1.5 months old and that was when I was 9 yrs. old, she was a polish sheepdog and we had her for almost 13 years. She passed away a few years ago.

I made a makeshift bed out of huge cardboard boxes, with lots of holes around the sides, lots of sheets for cushion. I went to Petco and asked for some help on raising it. They suggested giving him esbilac, 4x a day, 15ml each feeding session... etc. etc.

I know that the amount to give him depends on his weight and age. Will the vet be able to determine an approximate age?

I refrained from giving him water because I didn't read any information about it on feeding very young puppies.

I play with him after feeding and in about 20 mins. I tried to swab warm wet cotton balls on his anus and genitals but so far I haven't been able to make him defecate but he did pee alot. He doesn't seem to like the rubbing of the cotton balls on his anus.

He looks very comfortable, sleeping most of the time and faint cries when he wakes up, he seems to signal that he wants out of the box. So I take him out and he calms down.

I really don't have any experience on caring puppies this young, I hope I'm doing fine.


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It sounds like you're doing a great job with the little guy!

If he's up on all fours, steady on his feet and actually running around, he's more than likely at at least 3-4 weeks old. Your vet will be able to give a fairly reliable estimate of his age after examining him. He should be examined by a vet as soon as possible to have a complete physical exam and be tested for internal parasites.

If he's having no problems lapping the esbilac from a bowl, you can try feeding him a liquid mixture of dry puppy food and esbilac. Your best bet is to mix the puppy food and esbilac, (start with 3 parts esbilac and 1 part puppy food), to a thin consistency in a blender. If he does well on this mixture, you can gradually decrease the esbilac and add a little more puppy food every few days to a week. Weigh him at the same time every day for a few days to be sure he's growing and gaining properly. As long as he's on a liquid diet he doesn't need extra water. Though it would be a good idea to offer him water several times a day.

If as I suspect, he is approximately 3-4 weeks old and weighs just over one pound, he's most likely a much smaller breed (s) than a rottweiler. Unless of course he had been starved when he was dropped off. If he really is a rottie, he may have a problem that is keeping him from thriving. From you description of his activity level he sounds like he's doing just fine and is just a much smaller breed.

Keep up the good work and let us know how he's doing.

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Welcome to the forum,and good luck with this puppy,you will get loads of advice here
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Hi and welcome to the forum. You sound like you are doing a great job with the puppy do keep us updated as to his progress and good luck to you and the little one.
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Welcome to DogForum.org.

It does sound like you are doing a awesome job so far. I would call the Vet adn make an appt. for him/her to see the pup and get advice from them. You maye even want to contact a rescue and see if they have any adivice for you too.

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Egord!

What a strange thing for the Easter bunny to leave on your lawn

Excellent advice on how to care for him. At this point another concern would be that since he is an orphan at such a young age, he is missing out on the lessons he would normally be learning from littermates and mother. Is there perhaps a humane society that knows of a nursing mother he could temporarily be "adopted" by until he gets a little older?
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Hi egord, welcome to the forum. I can't give you any advice on this, but just wanted to say you're in good hands here.

Also the puppy is gorgeous and is lucky to have someone as wonderful as you.
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Hello and welcome to the forum. Great to have you with us. Now that is a very nice Easter present, that's for sure. What a cute baby.

He's very tiny to be a Rotweiller puppy that is able to run & climb on your head. I'd also guess the pup to be at least 3 weeks of age so I wouldn't hesitate to add puppy food to his ebsilac meals. A vet should be able identify the age (at least enough to tell you what he should be eating).

I have no experience raising orphaned pups but I have tons of experience feeding and/or supplementing kittens whose mothers were unable to care for them properly. My feeding schedule was every 2 hours for the first two weeks, and every 4 hours after that until I had them eating at least a gruel mixture (I fed gruel 3-4 times per day).

My kitten diets to transition from a milk mixture to real food could easily be used for a puppy. I'd use Chicken flavor human baby food, ground up puppy food kibble (I'd use a coffee grinder or blender to make it powdered), some water & mother's milk substitute to make a "paste" texture & then pour a little ebsilac on top of it to get the his interest.

Once they will lap the milk from the top, it doesn't take long until they're eating from the bowl. In addition, I'd take a finger-full of the paste & open the mouth & put a little inside to continue to encourage them to eat on their own. Most will take only a couple of attempts until they're climbing through the bototm of the plate.

If the pup is running & climbing, I'd also think the pup has the ability to eliminate on his own. If he's not able yet, you're taking the right steps to stimulate him to go. If he doesn't like it when you do it, it is possible that the water & cotton balls are irritating him. Try adding some baby oil to the cotton ball & see if that is more soothing.

Since you don't know if this pup's true age, I can't comment on the amount of food that you've been giving the pup, so I'd feed more often & judge the amount by how much interest pup shows in the food at the start of the feeding session. If the pup seems "starved", I'd increase the amount slowly to see just how much pup is willing to take.

I'd get a vet check as quickly as you can. The vet can tell if the pup is properly hydrated & should be able to tell you if there are signs of malnutrition prior to his arrival with you. If you "pull up" on the skin behind the pup's neck, you can check for hydration too ... if the fur/skin pops quickly back into place, your pup is properly hydrated, if the skin sloooooooowly falls back into place, consider it URGENT to get more hydration into the pup.

Good luck & please do keep us updated on your pup's progress.
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You have been given great advice!
I just want to say welcome! and be sure to check back in every now and then if you need help raising your new puppy
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Hi again egord,
At such a small age you can get a very good diea of the age by checking the teeth-look here to see how.

I think everyone is right so far about the dog being too small to be a Rottie. A first guess to estimate the adult weight for small dogs is to take their weight at age four weeks and multiply by four. This is not exact but it is at least a reasonable guess.

Best of luck!
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