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Old 03-13-2007, 05:52 AM   #1
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Hi all my puppy shadow does not like to be alone, everytime i go out i come home and he has chewed something, i go round and try to move everything i can see that he could chew, but he has started going for my table and chair woodern legs and my sofa.
I dont know what to do, i feel like i cant go out anymore.
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It sonds like your pup may suffer from seperation anxiety, or I guess he could just be bored. Try searching the forum for seperatoin anxiety. Can you leave him in a dog proof room, with lots of toys, kongs filled with cheese etc.? HOw much exercise does he get? Best of luckx

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I leave him in the front room and have had to get a gate for the kitchen and lock it when i go out or he rips the bin bag and contents out of the bin. I have got him a basket full of toys that are in the front room and i got him a kong and fill it with paste but he eats it too quickly and then starts on the furnature.
In the week i only go out to do school runs which is not long, in the morning i am gone for 15mins and afternoon I pick up my youngest which is about 15mins and my middle child when i take him to school i am gone for 40mins apart from that i am indoors.

At the weekend i go shopping etc.

I have left him with a pigs ear sometimes when i go out but he also finishes that too quickly.

I take him out once a day at the moment as i have 3 children and 3 school runs, also he jumps up at everyone when i am out and pulls me round the field, i dont let him off the lead, i did once but he went steaming up to a little old lady and nearly sent her flying.

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I agree it sounds like seperation anxiety. Have a look at this thread and hopefully that will explain and also help you.

http://www.dogforum.org/showthread.php?t=3937

I think it may also be time to start crate training. Do you have a crate yet ?

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have you tried leaving an old sweater or something old of yours with him, something with your scent on???
Couldn't you take him in the car with you, it may help him to get used to travelling in a vechile
I have heard having to many toys sometimes is overwhelming, as for the bin in your kitchen couldnt you put it out of reach?
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It sounds like you need to start crate training to me too. In addition, you might try putting some bitter apple or tobasco sauce on your furniture legs to deter him from chewing.
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He is trained in cage at night time, but i have funny neighbours and they complain if too much noise, and he howls if in the cage when i am out.
So thats not really an option

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hi cookiemama, he is fine in the car as he went to puppy training for weeks and had to drive there. i walk to the schools and have taken him once, but no dogs are allowed in the grounds and i had to tie him up outside, and he barked and howled and jumped up at everyone who walked passed.
So i cant take him up school anymore
i will try an old jumper or shirt see if that helps.

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Hi Angel,

I am by no means an expert, as I've only just got my second puppy now. However, my first puppy, now 1 years old used to suffer from terrible separation anxiety. He didn't chew a thing, he would just howl incessantly and get himself in such a state he would be sick.

I think it is because we run our own business, so he has me probably 23 hours a day as he even sleeps in our room, all of which seems to have made him clingy. From what you have said, it sounds like Shadow also has you around most of the time so it is probably a similar situation.

Internet research will tell you to go out of the house for just a couple of minutes and when he is quiet to go back in, and repeat this over a period of time gradually increasing the period of time before you go back in. Some will say not to make a fuss of him either before you leave or when you back in to communicate that it is no big deal. However, if you read any dog psychology, you will read that pack dogs always greet each other even if they have been gone only a few minutes. Since your family and your dog are essentially a pack in your dogs eyes, I'm not sure whether I agree with no greeting on your return. We make a huge fuss of ours on every return and give a treat.

So, although we haven't solved the problem entirely, it is much more acceptable. Our solution is probably not a recommended one, although it worked for us.

We basically stopped leaving him in the house and instead took him in the car and left him in the car. We were fortunate as our car is a builders jeep so we weren't too worried if it got trashed. If you have a hatchback you could always get a dog guard and put him in the very back to limit damage!

So, we used to leave him with a nice fresh bone, and did the same sort of thing - park outside a store, go in, come back a few minutes later. Next time go for a bit longer etc etc. In the beginning he used to stay with his nose glued to the window watching for the moment he could see us come back out the door we disappeared through. Now, he either eats his bone or curls up and goes to sleep, as he knows we always come back to the car. We still haven't bothered leaving him in the house as he's so good in the car and we're never gone more than 30 minutes anyway.

One other thing that does keep him occupied for a good 30mins to 1 hour is his treat ball. He absolutely adores it and it keeps him fascinated.

On the excitable behaviour front - we had exactly the same problem too. In fact one of the reasons we took him in the first place was because he was so mad-cap.

Again, we haven't entirely solved that one either, although again he's getting much better. We are fortunate here as Bulgaria only has a low population so we have lots of places to take him where there is no chance of meeting anyone. So, again, back to dog psychology - I read that one possible explanation for an excitable dog is because they're not getting enough of what they need. The example I read was that if you were only allowed out for 1 hour a day and still weren't allowed to do what you want (i.e. you were being restrained), wouldn't you be over-excited and chomping at the bit? I decided yes, I would be a little crazy too. So we took a deep breath and started giving him more freedom - we let him off the lead and just had to keep up in case we had to haul him away from something. This might not be possible in your case - as I say we aren't too populated here, so we have an easier situation. Our biggest problem is free range sheep absolutely everywhere - he loves making them run so we have to be one step ahead of him ..... eeek! The other thing we did was to start behaving a little crazy, running around, yelling excitedly, chasing him, being chased etc. It captured his attention and he became less interested in other things.

Anyway, the result? After only a week of giving him more freedom than he knew what to do with, he no longer ran off, he no longer jumps up at old ladies, he no longer runs after other dogs (which had been a MAJOR problem as there are hundreds of strays here and he previously wanted to play with them all!). Overall he is a MUCH happier and calmer dog - when on site I can now leave him to wander, he now stays close by, comes when called and he no longer pesters the builders! Obviously, he's still not a model dog, we still do get the odd occasion when he decides to have a mind of his own, although I don't mind that, he's still a teenager after all

One other reason I have read regarding the jumping up, is back to pack greetings again. Apparently, dogs greet each other by touching noses as they can get a measure of another dog by smelling their exhaled air When a dog jumps up, he's probably trying to touch their nose. So again, I now tell everyone to crouch down immediately to greet my boy - the result, no more jumping up Again, that's quite hard to get strangers to do I know, although if you just get your friends to do it, it will help.

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hi harry i am in the uk and where i take him for a walk there are loads of people, sometimes there is not many.
I did try him with an extendable lead but he bombs at people at such a force that he broke it.
I am just worried that he might hurt some one as he is only 5 months but is massive already, he is nearly as tall as my 4 yr old.

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