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Old 02-05-2007, 01:48 PM   #1
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I wonder if anyone could help me with a little problem I have. My labrador puppy, Ollie is now 5 months old. I got him from the breeder quite later, he was 17 weeks but has learnt most things quickly. He is clean at night between 10:00 and 6:00 and is also clean all weekend when I'm not at work. However.... when I am at work mon-fri 8:00-4:00 he is peeing on the floor. I am still putting paper down to try and soak it up but don't know if this is encouraging him to pee more. I have a dog minder who comes in at lunch and walks him so he is only on his own for 4 hours before going for a walk. I know he can hold it for twice this length of time!!

Has anyone else had a problem like this, and what is the best thing to do? Your help is appreciated very much.

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Hi Emma, and welcome

That is Ollie in your avatar? Isn't he adorable!!

So Ollie is clean at night and on the weekends but not while you are at work? It sounds as though there is no medical reason for him to be peeing in the house. And on the weekend you take him out to do his business?

From what you descrbie it sounds as though Ollie simply does not understand that you do not want him to pee inside, you want him to pee outside.

Step one is to get an enzymatic cleaner to remove all traces of the pee smell from the floor. Dogs choose their "spots" by smell, and the repeated peeing has made the indoor area an acceptable spot.

Step two is to get Ollie to understand that "pee outside=good". Have some treats ready when you go out on the weekend, and as soon as Ollie pees, act like he just won the lottery.

Step three (this will be harder) is to get Ollie to understand that "pee inside=not good". You have to catch him when he is either in the act or about to do his business. This will be tricky of you are not there to see it. And punishing afterwards will have no effect other than to confuse him. As soon as you see him sniffing that special way, whisk him outside. This will take a while for him to catch on, and there will be setbacks, but if you are consistent he will get the message.

Good luck!
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Hi,

I wonder if anyone could help me with a little problem I have. My labrador puppy, Ollie is now 5 months old. I got him from the breeder quite later, he was 17 weeks but has learnt most things quickly. He is clean at night between 10:00 and 6:00 and is also clean all weekend when I'm not at work. However.... when I am at work mon-fri 8:00-4:00 he is peeing on the floor. I am still putting paper down to try and soak it up but don't know if this is encouraging him to pee more. I have a dog minder who comes in at lunch and walks him so he is only on his own for 4 hours before going for a walk. I know he can hold it for twice this length of time!!

Has anyone else had a problem like this, and what is the best thing to do? Your help is appreciated very much.

Emma.
I don't believe I've had this problem with any of our dogs...but I would like to try and offer some possible bits of advice/suggestions that may help...

When he does his business outside, do you praise him? As soon as he does it outside, tell him 'he's a good boy', "do business outside", or whatever you prefer to say

When your home, how often do you take him outside for business?

I've never had a male dog, is it possible this is his way of "marking" his territory...because that is something you have to put a stop to in the house...

Its hard to enforce things when your not at home when it happens

I know he is a rather young pup, do you think he is suffering from some separation anxiety? Does he have toys to play with or something to keep him busy while you are gone? Can the person who comes to walk him, check on him more frequently?

Sorry if I haven't been of much help to you, just trying to think of some things to help figure this out for you I'm sure there are some other forum members here who will gladly provide you with some good advice...
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From what you descrbie it sounds as though Ollie simply does not understand that you do not want him to pee inside, you want him to pee outside.

Step one is to get an enzymatic cleaner to remove all traces of the pee smell from the floor. Dogs choose their "spots" by smell, and the repeated peeing has made the indoor area an acceptable spot.

Step two is to get Ollie to understand that "pee outside=good". Have some treats ready when you go out on the weekend, and as soon as Ollie pees, act like he just won the lottery.

Step three (this will be harder) is to get Ollie to understand that "pee inside=not good". You have to catch him when he is either in the act or about to do his business. This will be tricky of you are not there to see it. And punishing afterwards will have no effect other than to confuse him. As soon as you see him sniffing that special way, whisk him outside. This will take a while for him to catch on, and there will be setbacks, but if you are consistent he will get the message.
Ahh, skunkstripe you got your post in before mine...and Emma, skunkstripe has provided excellent information for you and your problem with Ollie...excellent advice skunkstripe!!!
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Wow- thank you for your quick reply!!

Schedule for work days is walk fom 7:00-7:30 so he is tired. I then leave him with a stuffed Kong toy and another chew. He manages to get the stuff out of the Kong toy and when my dog walker comes round he says Ollie is always sleeping. After the lunch time walk he is left with another stuffed Kong and a toy and is usually asleep when I return home so I don't think he is too bored during the day. he is also left with the radio tuned into a talk show.

He gets loads of praise when he goes to the toilet outside either on a walk or in the yard but unfortunately I don't get to catch him in the act indoors during the day as it occurs while I'm at work. At the weekend I try and keep the routine similar in terms of walk and feed times. He hasn't deficated in the house for a few weeks now, just the urination.

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He hasn't deficated in the house for a few weeks now, just the urination.

Emma.
Sounds like a "male" thing, having to do with territory marking...but I wouldn't know because I have a female dog...its a shame you are at work when it happens and not able to "catch" him in the act...that would be the sure fire way to get him to stop doing it...

By the way, your Avatar of Ollie, is SOOOOOOO adorable!!!
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I'm going to disagree with the male thing. Usually if they are marking, it is to cover up another dog's urine. Assuming no one else is peeing in the house that can't be it. I'll stick with the theory that Ollie simply does nto quite understand that he is not supposed to be going in the house. I'm afraid there is no option other than to have someone there to catch him in the act or slightly before to take him outside. Like MydogShelby said, that is the sure-fire way to solve the problem.
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hi this sounds normal puppy behaviour to me .

he's peeing out side when your home cos he can tell you he needs to go, when your at work he may need to go and your not there so atleast he's going on the paper.

he'll eventually grow out of it. the older he gets the longer he'll be able to hold it for.

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Hi Emma, and welcome

That is Ollie in your avatar? Isn't he adorable!!

So Ollie is clean at night and on the weekends but not while you are at work? It sounds as though there is no medical reason for him to be peeing in the house. And on the weekend you take him out to do his business?

From what you descrbie it sounds as though Ollie simply does not understand that you do not want him to pee inside, you want him to pee outside.

Step one is to get an enzymatic cleaner to remove all traces of the pee smell from the floor. Dogs choose their "spots" by smell, and the repeated peeing has made the indoor area an acceptable spot.

Step two is to get Ollie to understand that "pee outside=good". Have some treats ready when you go out on the weekend, and as soon as Ollie pees, act like he just won the lottery.

Step three (this will be harder) is to get Ollie to understand that "pee inside=not good". You have to catch him when he is either in the act or about to do his business. This will be tricky of you are not there to see it. And punishing afterwards will have no effect other than to confuse him. As soon as you see him sniffing that special way, whisk him outside. This will take a while for him to catch on, and there will be setbacks, but if you are consistent he will get the message.

Good luck!
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Schedule for work days is walk fom 7:00-7:30 so he is tired. I then leave him with a stuffed Kong toy and another chew. He manages to get the stuff out of the Kong toy and when my dog walker comes round he says Ollie is always sleeping. After the lunch time walk he is left with another stuffed Kong and a toy and is usually asleep when I return home so I don't think he is too bored during the day. he is also left with the radio tuned into a talk show.
It took me a while but maybe this is the key here.

Does Ollie pee in the AM or the PM?
And if he is sleeping when your dog walker comes, does he/she leave Ollie be? If so maybe the thing to do is wake the boy up and get him outside. Twelve hours is a long time to go without peeing even for an adult dog.
And maybe restrict his water intake a little in the AM.

Just a thought...
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