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Old 01-24-2007, 01:00 PM   #1
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I have a 16 week collie - I got her at 3 months and for the first few weeks it seemed as if she was house broken - no accidents at all. The breeder told me that they did not house break her - it was pretty cool. Obviously she is a puppy and if I test her she will wet - like not crating her when I leave or at night...etc

The last two weeks she has had a few accidents. Like a few days ago I took her for a short bathroom walk were she went #1 and #2 - an hour later she got really excited from playing with her toy and went #1 in the house. Yesterday I was getting ready to take her out - it has been almost three hours - and she had already peed

So here is my question - because this has been happening every now and then do I go to a strict crate routine until it stops ? Do I take her out every hour and a half for the next week hoping it stops? Or is this simple - she is a puppy and accidents will happen - don't worry about it thing? Interested to hear your advice

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Old 01-24-2007, 01:36 PM   #2
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Hi dmasters and welcome

Accidents do happen, but there are some things you can do and check to help them NOT happen.

First off, if she pees when she gets excited, there is not much you can do about that except not get her excited. Some dogs will also pee as a gesture of submission so you have to watch it when you scold them. If it happens a lot, a vet checkup is in order to make sure she does not have a urinary tract infection.

Second, does she understand that you really really want her to go outside? Do you praise her, maybe even give her a treat so she KNOWS that "going outside=good"?

Third, you probably have not done this, but be careful not to make the mistake of scolding her if she does go inside. Just say "no" gently and whisk her outside as quickly as reasonable so she has a chance to make the assocation between eliminating and being outside.

Fourth, make it easy for her. She ought to be able to "hold it" for about four hours (more or less), unless of course she has drunk a lot of water. So if you think you will be coming up on a time when it is not likely for her to be outside, limit her water intake.

I'm sure others will chime in as we have many knowledgable and helpful members here.

Good luck!
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Hi dmasters welcome to the forum..congratulations on your puppy... As skunk has given good advice....i always take them outside....after waking, playing, eating and drinking...at her age I would still continue taking her out every 2 hours...I wouldn't crate her....you want to keep the crate a positive thing not associated with punishment...she is still very young...and accidents happen.....
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At her age, I'd continue taking her outside very couple of hours through the day - regardless of how well she might be housebroken, her bladder is only so big. Each accident in the house needs to be cleaned with an enzymatic cleaner that will eliminate any traces of the accident, so the pup can't smell where she has puddled, before. Each time she goes outside, praise her lavishly and reinforce the "go potty" (or whatever) command. Make a big deal out of her successful potty trips, so she has no doubt she's done good.

I recently posted about my 11-month old pup having the occasional accident in the house while playing. Accidents do happen. They will continue to happen. All you can really do is make sure your dog has ample opportunity to go outside on a reasonable schedule and keep reinforcing the good behavior.
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Tom I am glad you showed up on this thread because you probably know more than the rest of us about it. How IS that 11 month old pup doing now with the accidents? Was it excitement urination, how are you dealing with it? If you don't mind I would be interested in getting your first-hand experience for future reference.
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Thanks for all the great advice

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This thread has been helpful for us too. Our four month old bouvier is pretty good at going outside when we take him but if we leave him in the living room to go upstairs for a short while he will pee on the carpet. So we have to put him in the kitchen with a baby gate. At least if he pees in there it doesn't matter so much. Hopefully one day soon we can get rid of the baby gate.

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Tom I am glad you showed up on this thread because you probably know more than the rest of us about it. How IS that 11 month old pup doing now with the accidents? Was it excitement urination, how are you dealing with it? If you don't mind I would be interested in getting your first-hand experience for future reference.
I doubt that, but thank you. She hasn't had another accident. She is out of the crate almost all the time, now, and hasn't been having any accidents. I think the most important thing for the excitement urination was turning her out before play sessions, or when play sessions spontaneously occur. Also, we have continued to emphasize going potty on command, and her house manners have improved as her ability to go on command has. It's not really any different than dealing with a young child. First thing in the morning, you teach them to go potty, a little after each meal they go potty, after they wake up from a nap they go potty, before you leave the house to go anywhere you remind them to go potty, when you seem them fidgeting you ask them if they need to go potty. Well, with our hounds, we turn them out first thing each morning, before and after each meal, before we leave the house, after they wake up from a long nap, before play sessions, when they ask to be let out (unless it is clearly boredom), and if it has been 3-4 hours since their last turnout. Except while the puppy was learning to live indoors, we have had very few accidents with any of our fosters. We did have a pissing contest between Zen and one of the male fosters, once, but territorial marking is not the same as simple urination.
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...but if we leave him in the living room to go upstairs for a short while he will pee on the carpet. So we have to put him in the kitchen with a baby gate. At least if he pees in there it doesn't matter so much. Hopefully one day soon we can get rid of the baby gate.
This sounds like it might be separation anxiety, to me. There are several good threads on dealing with various aspects of SA. Sounds to me like your Bouvier would benefit from some alone training.
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Your dog is still a very young puppy and she needs to be taken out,every 2 hrs and after each drinks, meals or playtime when you are at home.If you're away,put her,in a crate.It will avoid a lot of the mishaps.A puppy doesn't usually dirty where he sleeps unless he has a urinary infection so you might want to check that.
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