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Old 01-10-2007, 10:00 PM   #1
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We have a male Black Lab x Aussie who is just over 12 weeks old. We have had him for just over two weeks now. I have read up on how to work with biting; however, yelping and walking away, muzzling, loud cracks with neither newspaper, nor coins in a can tossed nearby have made any difference. When approached he begins to bite and bite and bite. He doesn't flinch or pay any attention to the methods listed above. I have also read that socializing my pup might help; however, I have no friends or family with a dog to socialize with so I may have to pay for puppy obedience or day care. This of course costs $ and after the puppy purchase, toys, crate, leashes, leads, and vet care, $ is running out. I had hoped not to need pay for obedience right now. So I am wondering if socializing our pup via obedience class or day care has significant benefits or if I still have other options?
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:48 PM   #2
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Can you put him into 'time out' when he bites too hard?
Have you considered puppy pre school? I have found that puppy pre school, combined with yelping and time out's work best - at least for my little Dobe.

Here's a good article that may help -

http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIP...Inhibition.php

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We do use "time out", mosty for our sanity, but if it were the primary method he would be constantly in "time out". He really does not stop biting. I usually spend my time trying to redirect him to toys or just say no! and get up and walk away but of course he follows all the while jumping and biting. Thanks for the article I will try to adjust my methods according to the suggestions in the article.
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:20 PM   #4
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Rlondre, that article david99 posted has loads of excellent information in it. What happens if when he bites, you grab and hold his muzzle while you growl and say no (while maintaining eye contact)? He's still a young pup, but if he's showing dominant traits, it's wise to get it worked out sooner rather than later. Be consistent. Pick one method and follow through with it through repetition. Biting is a no-no.
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If I grab his muzzle and say no he really gets wild and frails about biting at anything near his head. We joke and say he looks like JAWS from the movie. Honestly, I think it provokes him to bite more.
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Old 01-11-2007, 07:18 AM   #6
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rlondre, its a really slow process and I think you are doing fine, stop changing your methods though, pick one and stick with it, if you keep changing then it wont work.

We found that the standing up arms crossed and ignoring thing worked up until she was 4 months. then when she was old enough to understand what 'no' meant (and your pup wont get that at the moment) THEN we intorduced holding her mouth shut with a firm no, she stopped after a few weeks.

But he is too young at the moment to know what on earth you are going on about

Socialising, yes you really need to do this now. We took Roxy to parks and just sat there with her on our lap whilst people walked past, we took her to car boot sales where there were big crowds. We take her into shops where possible and pet stores where you can find other dogs. I must emphasis how important this is. Really go out of your way to find at least ONE other dog for him to play with or you will have a lot of trouble when he is older.

when you get the money up together try and enroll in obedience classes. This will give your pup socialisation as well as constant training
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Hang in there,

My terrier mix is just a bit older than your pup and he behaves similarly. Not all the time, but whenever he is really playing hard. In Hawk's case, it is definitely not real aggression, he is just playing (I'm not saying thats acceptable, but its better than the alternative).

His behavior toward other dogs is another story, but I'll leave that to another thread. I don't want to hijack yours.

As far as socialization, look for a local puppy playgroup at a dog training or dog daycare facility. I found one that meets every Saturday morning and its just $5 a session. We've been to one so far and it did him a lot of good.

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When your pup bites, grab his muzzles and firmly say no. It is important to stay calm and not yell, but to be firm. Puppies will throw temper tantrums. They are not being hurt, it really is just a temper tantrum. It is so important not to give in. Hold the muzzle until they totally submit. This means there mind and body relax and are calm. This will also set the stage for other lessons. He will quicly learn who the boss is. If you let go before he submits - then he learns that he can get his way by throwing temper tantrums and that is not a good thing.

I also use a leash in the house. If you have children or company, this gives you quick access to the behavior as soon as it starts. Stopping it right away is also really important. I give a quick little jurk on the leash to get the pups attention with a firm no. I leave the leash on for about a half to hour at a time and a few times a day.

I raise malamutes and they are very strong willed. This does work with dogs that are strong willed or stubborn. Not all dogs respond or need the same lessons and because of this, those methods that you have already tried didn't work. Now it is time to try stronger more dominant methods. Raising puppies is trial and error.

Hope this helps, keep us posted on his progress.
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Hi, let me just share my experience with my dog Hummer. He is a labrador mix breed. He really tested my patience when he was still a pup. He liked to bite and nip. We did what we can to really make him understand that what he was doing was wrong.

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