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Old 02-23-2016, 11:54 PM   #1
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Default 5 Month Old Sleeping In Urine

I have a five-month old puppy who's recently started doing something very odd. She's usually very well trained, and her potty-training is going well, but she's recently started to pee in her crate before sleeping in the puddle itself, and I can't figure it out. I'll take her outside to go, and she'll go, but then once we're back inside she'll go into her crate, pee, and then lay in the pee itself - it's gotten to the point where she actually has a urine scald! Her crate is large enough to not sleep on it, but she still does it. She does not have accidents anywhere else, it's only where she's going to sleep. I've tried moving the crate, switching things around, going back to training 101 and taking her out every half hour, using Nature's Miracle to attract her outside, nothing works! I've tried putting her in the crate, then taking her outside, nothing. Several times I've stayed outside for over an hour at a time hoping she'll pee twice, but she holds it. I've tried going in and out over and over, too. I've tried watching her when she's in the crate, but she makes absolutely no warning when she's going to go - I interupt her and take her outside, but that's the best I can do. Does anyone know why she might do this, and how to get her to stop? Am I doing something wrong or is it something else?

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Welcome aboard The DireStrait to Df This is unusal from what I have learned from this great forum puppies/dog won't normaly go inside their den (crate)
so can't really say what's causing it. Do you give her plently of attention during the day? Use a enzyme cleaner (not bleach) and throughly clean/rinse the crate with boiling water, normal cleaners will not get rid of the odour while we cant smell any traces a enzyme cleaner willget rid of the odours then the puppy won't be able to smell any traces of the pee and go back to same spot. so this may help with this behaviour. Have you taken her to the vet for the urine burn and why she might be doing this? How long has she been doing this for? Have you got a name for her? Please update us on what's happening.
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Old 02-24-2016, 09:53 AM   #3
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Hello!
Yes, I give her lots of love! I actually have an enzyme cleaner that I've been using to clean the crate, the carpet around it, the liner, and the blanket I put over the crate, though I did use bleach to whiten the liner at first, and I didn't use boiling water, just normal water. The cleaning at this point was more for the smell than anything because it doesn't seem to help. I took her to the vet to get her checked out, they didn't know why she would do it, they just gave me advice on how to clean it and suggestions for pain meds if the burns persisted. Unfortunately, the shampoo I had for her wasn't strong enough to get all of it clean, and so for a while the burns were pretty bad, but I was able to figure it out and get a stronger one, though the frequent baths have left her hindquarters patchy and her fur dry. She's been doing this for a while, over a week I think. I tried a lot as I mentioned before to try and help but it didn't work. Her name is Hemset.

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The Liner you could probably wash in the washing machine on a 60 also use hot water to clean the crate snd no bleach just the enzyme cleaner Can I ask did you have her from a pup? There has to be a reason why Hemset is doing this but what it is I don't know. But the behaviour must be reversed. I would ask a behaviourist for some advice on this seeing as your vet has never heard of this, there again it is odd behaviour. I do hope you get the problem sorted!
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Welcome to Dog Forum! Did the vet have any suggestions! We aren't vets here and no one else has come here with this problem. When some of the other more experienced members have seen your post maybe they will have some suggestions. I am only on my 2nd dog and about 10 years experience and have learned a lot on the forum.
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Welcome to the forum. I too am at a loss as how to respond to your problem. Though I have had many dogs over the past years, have never had this problem. Hopefully some of the trainers on the site can help you. Good luck.
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You might want to consider using an xpen in conjunction with the crate to confine your pup to a limited area overnight while allowing her to use the crate itself just to sleep. She will very likely grow out of this behavior. Nature's Miracle is a fantastic cleaner that you might want to try.
My Dog Pees In Her Crate - Ask AKC - American Kennel Club
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Bigboy; She was somewhat of a rescue, so I had her since she was six weeks. I was around her for a short while when she was still blind as a pup, but only for a few days. She was the runt and picked on horribly by all the other pups, she had to do drastic things to be able to even eat, like laying down in her food bowl when she was big enough to be weaned. I have a feeling that her early life (and mother's owner) caused a few issues related to behaviour, but none of them that I've noticed are very serious. This could be another one, though I'm not sure why it would only manifest after several months. I tried searching for a behaviourist but I could only find two in my area, one seemed out of business and the other was very expensive, $300 for a consultation! I'll do it if I must, but at that price I'd much rather find help online.

techie; Thank you! The vet didn't have any suggestions for the behaviour itself, no. They gave me advice on pain medicine and told me that they simply hadn't run into something like this before.

Dunbar's Mom; Hello! I sure hope we can get to the root of this.

JGLI; Thank you for the link and advice, however I don't believe it will help. I found a lot of general crate soiling advice online while searching for this issue, and it seems at least a little bit different, mostly in that she'll go before sleeping and not at any other time - not during the day or in the middle of the night, and also that she specifically sleeps in the mess instead of a clean part of her crate. That and the "rarity" of a situation like this worries me that it might not be something she'll just grow out of.

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The "online advice" I linked to for you is from a compilation of best practices. The reality is that you may not ever discover the reason for the behavior but the focus needs to be on eliminating it and using successful strategies to provide comfortable alternatives for her. As you suspect she endured some bullying by littermates, etc. her ways of meeting her needs in ways she feels safe are important to setting her up for success. The xpen strategy is one that works for many puppies beyond the early puppy hood stage and if you can afford a behaviorist, I would follow up on that if she seems to be exhibiting other behavioral issues.
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Her other issues are very, very minor ones - occasionally she'll put a foot in her food bowl while eating, she's submissive to larger dogs (not rolling on her back, but she keeps her head down a lot), stuff like that.
As for the ex-pen, I'm curious as to what that does? I know what an ex-pen IS, I'm just a new dog owner and I don't see how it would make her feel more comfortable or set her up for success. Thank you!

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