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Old 02-24-2016, 11:11 PM   #11
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An exercise pen would give her the option of not peeing in the crate so maybe she would come out and pee on a puppy pad instead. Once you break the habit she would probably prefer to go outside her crate, in fact for now, I would eliminate the crate altogether for a while and just put a blanket or towel down for her to sleep on for a while. Even young puppies well before they are weaned, move off their bed to pee.

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Old 02-25-2016, 11:38 AM   #12
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Question: Have you asked the woman that you got her from if your pup exhibited the same behavior before you adopted her? You said that she was the runt of the litter and terribly picked on by the other pups. Maybe this was something she did to mark her "spot" and to keep the other pups from bothering her when she was sleeping. My next question is there anything (no matter how small) that has changed in your home that would make her have feelings of insecurity at this stage? My thoughts are probably just "garbage", but just thought I would throw them into the mix.
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Old 02-25-2016, 12:47 PM   #13
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I am so glad that I asked wether you had the pup from a previous home. From your answer this would sense why she is exhibiting this unusal behaviour but why it's come out 3 months later I am not sure. Poor little girl Prehaps tell this your vet this too I do still think the only way forward is a behaviourist. How ever we do have trainers on board here who hope fully will have some definative answers for you Kudos to you for rescuing her
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Old 02-25-2016, 02:40 PM   #14
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The other point is did the previous owner have any bearing on this behaviour by keeping her in a crate for long periods of time and the pup had no choice but to pee in the crate? While this is only a presumtion it's quite possible too.
For now I would only use a X-Pen and have plenty of toys in this too to create a 'happy' place for her to hang out in This behaviour must be reversed other wise it could continue in to adult hood which I know you don't want!!
I pray you will get the problem sorted for the puppy sake Please let us know how you get on. Thank you
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Old 02-26-2016, 01:51 PM   #15
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Kyllobernese; I could try setting up a pen, I'm just very concerned that even with the option there not to sleep in her waste, she will continue to do it, as she seems to actually prefer it instead of just not caring.

Dunbar's Mom; I gladly welcome any ideas or questions, even if you think they're "garbage". I haven't asked the guy I got her from if she did this before, I try to avoid him at all costs, he's really not a great guy. In fact, I even heard from my grandmother who lives near him that his dog (Hemset's mom) is pregnant again! Ugh. Hopefully she's mistaken, because if she's not I don't know if I can get them all homes again. But anyway, the marking could make a bit of sense, especially if something "upset" her and she felt the need to do it in order to feel safe. I can't really think of anything that would do that, though - we have other pets, mainly two cats, which both tolerate her but don't do much else except retreat if she tries to greet them (one of them was in an abusive household with several dogs as a kitten and rapid sniffing really unnerves her, the other is just a loner type). Hemset seems to really like them, though, so I don't think anything happened between them. Another possibility is that her crate is a relatively new addition - when we first got her she didn't have a crate, we got her the one she's in maybe three or four weeks before this started.

Bigboy; Most of my pets are rescues, except for my snake, my heart just melts whenever I see animals in a shelter or bad situation! My dad's like that, too, he once brought home an entire box of kittens because they were stored in some guy's garage with a stack of books on top to keep them in! He went there because of a garage sale originally - my mom was less than thrilled when he got home. xD
If I remember correctly the guy I got Hemset from kept the pups in their welping box the entire time he had them, until they were weaned at about six weeks when he pawned them off to people I'd found. It would make a lot of sense if she was stuck in a situation where she was forced to pee where she slept all the time. He actually pad-trained them while he had them, so maybe he forced them to sleep on the pads themselves? She used to drag her soiled pads onto her bed when I first had her, so maybe that was why, it reminded her of the "bed" she used to have as a pup. But that still doesn't really work, because the problem hasn't been constant and her potty-training has been going great other than this. Maybe she only does it when she wants to feel comforted? Do you think she feels lonely when I put her in the crate to sleep for the night alone? Because that's the only time she does it.

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This type idiot who doesn't care about his dogs/puppies welfare makes me sick
he should be reported to the authourites!! It could be a comfort thing, but doubt it how ever there is some physcological problems in Hemset from what I can see as Hemset grows this condition will get worse. so get a assement done at your vets and ask for a referal to a specialist this behaviour is not normal everyday puppy behaviour like chewing and nipping is
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People like him seriously suck. I would have reported him to the authorites, had it not been for the fact that his dog would have been taken to a shelter, where she probably would have been put down since pitbulls in the area are a very unpopular breed and she doesn't like children. From what I can tell he treats her very well, it's just the puppies that annoy him, so he doesn't take very good care of them. ("They keep me up all night with their whining!" "She keeps jumping on and off my bed to take care of them and wakes me up!" How about you get your dog fixed, dude? This is the second time she's had pups!)
Anyway, I decided to put a little heater in the crate the other day to see if it was maybe a warmth/comfort thing, and so far she's seemed to stop. We'll see, but in the meantime I'm still definitely open to any ideas or suggestions!

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...Anyway, I decided to put a little heater in the crate the other day to see if it was maybe a warmth/comfort thing, and so far she's seemed to stop. We'll see, but in the meantime I'm still definitely open to any ideas or suggestions!
Sounds like you may have hit on something...Good Luck!
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People like him seriously suck. I would have reported him to the authorites, had it not been for the fact that his dog would have been taken to a shelter, where she probably would have been put down since pitbulls in the area are a very unpopular breed and she doesn't like children. From what I can tell he treats her very well, it's just the puppies that annoy him, so he doesn't take very good care of them. ("They keep me up all night with their whining!" "She keeps jumping on and off my bed to take care of them and wakes me up!" How about you get your dog fixed, dude? This is the second time she's had pups!)
Anyway, I decided to put a little heater in the crate the other day to see if it was maybe a warmth/comfort thing, and so far she's seemed to stop. We'll see, but in the meantime I'm still definitely open to any ideas or suggestions!
LOL not that I think it's funny just
think this guy is deluded!!! Puppies are cute etc,etc but are hard work too that's one of the reasons why I have had my Nipper done so she couldn't have pups as it can be stressful as well as rewarding too! I suspect he is in it only for the money. Hey tell you what though you have definately thought 'out' side of the box with the idea of
heating the crate Great thinking there Can I make a suggestion put the heater just out side of the crate for safety reasons (is it electric?) Good Luck and please keep us posted on Hemset's progress.
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Dunbar's Mom; Thank you!

Bigboy; He's not in it for the money, both times she got pregnant was when she escaped his yard, and her first litter "went missing" after no one expressed interest in them, that's the main reason I was so quick to take a look at them and find homes for them. While I liked Hemset from the beginning, I don't think I ever would have tried actually taking her had it not been for the fact that nobody wanted the runt and she would have probably disappeared, too. Now that I have her I love her so much. <3
The heater was an old terrarium heater, they're designed to be left on all the time so it's safe. It's also not inside where she is, it's underneath the plastic bottom of the crate, enough to heat it and the pad but not enough to hurt her or burn something.

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