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Old 10-17-2013, 03:21 PM   #1
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Hey everyone!! I have a quick question perhaps you more experienced dog people can help me with. Here is some background:

We adopted a puppy in August from a local humane society. She's about 6 months now, her mother a known Australian Shepherd. Father unknown, but she looks a kind of like a Kelpie or Cattle Dog. Half the litter looked Aussie like her mom, and the rest looked like her.

She's sweet, and I love her to death. When we first got her she had tummy problems (which after multiple trips to the vet, found out she has to be on GI food). Now she's better but she still has moments where her tummy is upset. My fiance has this same type of condition so I know what it involves.

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Recently she has been whining and yipping in the crate A LOT. Normally she will whine for a few moments during the night and go to sleep. I've video taped her when we leave and she will whine for a few minutes and then quiet down. So it's like she a little upset that we're leaving, but then gets over it. We have an adult dog who stays with her all of the time, and she isn't always in her crate - just when we can't keep an eye on her. She has a love for getting into everything

Last night she cried from about 5am to 9am this morning. I got up promptly when the crying started, thinking she had to potty. Took her out, and she peed a little but that was it. She frolicked the rest of the time out there. I brought her in and crated her so I could go back to sleep. She started again and kept going and going and going. The whole time my adult dog was laying next to her crate.

She has done this for the last few nights and it's running me ragged. And she's been doing it more recently when I go to shower, or if I'm out of sight. I'm also surprised we haven't gotten a complaint (maybe the walls of our apartment are thick). She has toys in her crate, which I switch out so she isn't bored. I've tried covering the crate with a blanket so it's more "den-like". I've tried leaving the TV on. I've even tried pheromone plug-ins. I walk her every day and she has play time with our other pooch.

I've been trying to condition her too, by leaving and coming back frequently while stretching out the time I stay out. My co-worker suggested I take her to doggy daycare but I'm worried she won't learn how to be alone. I can't take her to doggy daycare for her whole life. Any suggestions I didn't think of?

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Old 10-17-2013, 05:28 PM   #2
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Welcome to df Dolly. I don't know the answer but someone else will be along soon to help.
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Hi DollyMissMolly and welcome aboard I suspect it is Seperation Anxiety the thing is to try and ignore crying if you keep running to her every whine etc then she has got you where she wants you. Do you live in the Uk? if you do there was good programme on SA (Seperation Anxiety) and what to do to combat it One tip you could try is really tire
her out both phisicaly and mentaly prior to crateing her. A tired Dog is happy dog And keep up the good work on increasing the time (gradually though!) when you aren't with her, don't fuss her on the way out though just leave the room and come back in again gradually building up till you can leave the house for a few mins etc etc. The results won't happen over night either it will take loads of time and patience and love Good luck and let us know how you get on!!!
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DollyMissMolly, welcome to the forum. I don't have an answer either as we don't use a crate with Dunbar. Like techie, I'm sure someone else will have some help. Good luck and your pup is cute.

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Thank you everyone!!

Bigboy - Thank you for the encouragement. I will continue to do this with her. I'm just worried about it going on too long because we are in an apartment and I don't want to bother my neighbors either. But it doesn't seem to bother anyone since it's been months and not a single complaint.

I do not live in the UK, but I will look into some research here and see what I can do and learn to help her with this. Thankfully our other dog does not have SA so hopefully she will be able to help Piper cope.

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I would take her to doggie day care, if you can afford it. My Husband and I took our one Collie to doggie day care, and it was the best thing we could have ever done. He attended for a year every day, and then we stepped down to 3 times a week, then 2 times a week, and then just stopped. We had a great doggie day care center that had baby pools, and separated the large dogs from the small dogs. We also lived in an apartment at the time. You may not need to have her in day care long.. you do have another dog at home, and that will help.

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Thank you everyone!!

Bigboy - Thank you for the encouragement. I will continue to do this with her. I'm just worried about it going on too long because we are in an apartment and I don't want to bother my neighbors either. But it doesn't seem to bother anyone since it's been months and not a single complaint.

I do not live in the UK, but I will look into some research here and see what I can do and learn to help her with this. Thankfully our other dog does not have SA so hopefully she will be able to help Piper cope.
You are welcome Any way here is a link to a topic on here which includes a link to the show via You Tube! Dogs Their Seceret Lives Of Dogs (Channel4) click on the link in reply 13 on this topic! The programme (this episode) deals with SA (Seperation Anxiety) you may pick up some valuable tips! Good luck
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And I don't think it makes any difference wether the SA problem is if the dog is loose in the house or crated SA is SA! I have watched it twice now and enjoyed it both times
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Bigboy, you are correct. SA is SA, but with it comes a host of problems. Bad behavior is one of them. When my dog developed SA as an adult, I had to crate her for her own safety. She would tear up and eat anything.. Remember my post about my king size bed? She ripped a hole in it straight down to the springs. Crating her was the only option to keep her safe while I was working.

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Bigboy, you are correct. SA is SA, but with it comes a host of problems. Bad behavior is one of them. When my dog developed SA as an adult, I had to crate her for her own safety. She would tear up and eat anything.. Remember my post about my king size bed? She ripped a hole in it straight down to the springs. Crating her was the only option to keep her safe while I was working.
Thanks and of course but did you watch the You Tube feed? No crates was used! And crateing should be only short term IMO as dogs don't usually grow out of SA or it's associated behaviour they have to have the learned behaviour unlearned and new behaviour has to be taught
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