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Old 10-15-2012, 02:23 PM   #1
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Hello all,

So as I mentioned in another thread-my younger brother recently got a chihuahua pup. While he works(from 9AM-6PM) the pup is at my house.

The thing is my brother doesn't want to pup to bond with me more then him. So she's in her crate during her stay. (She already gets excited when she sees me when shes with my brother, something I don't think he's exactly happy about)

I take her out every thirty minutes and will occasionally run her around the yard(which is medium/large sized) three-four times. (So a few minutes).

I want her to be tired, but I don't want to overwhelm her. How often do you think I should run her around the yard? Every time I take her out or every few hours?

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Old 10-15-2012, 03:18 PM   #2
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Ama, it's only natural for a dog to bond with the person it's with most of the day. It's really not fair to keep the pup crated when she doesn't have to be. If you are trying to potty train her, it should be no different than potty training any other pup. At this youg age, the puppy needs as much socialization as possible. Your Borther needs to understand that. Taking her out to run and play would be the same as taking any dog out to run and play. When they are tired, they usually stop and want to rest.

I hate to be blut here, and I'm sorry if I offend you, but your Brother should be grateful that he has a place to drop off his dog every day. He should be grateful that he has you to feed, play, and train his dog. If he is upset because his dog is so happy to see you every day, which is perfectly natural for any dog, then he should have thought twice before getting the pup. He should think of the alternative. You could have said no, and not watched his puppy, and she would be stuck in a crate for 10 hours a day, with no interaction with other people or dogs.
Again, I try not to voice my opinion in such a negative way, but Chi's live for a long time. Is your Brother ready to spend the time, energy, and commitment it takes to raise a puppy and care for it for the next 12 to 15 years?

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That's like finding the absolute best day care for your kid and then resenting it when they like it there!!

Yes, I saw that kind of attitude from young moms when my kids were little. Heck I knew I had the right day care arrangements when my kids pleaded to stay for sleepovers... and wanted to compare dinner menu options before leaving for the day!

Instead of worrying about not letting the pup bond with you, maybe your energy could be better directed to talking some sense into your brother...just saying!!

Is your brother intent on the pup being crated so that it doesn't bond with you or is there another reason the pup is being crated during the day?

Puppies need all of their daytime hours for learning and play and need to run and explore until they wear themselves out. IMO, there's no such thing as giving a pup too much play/exercise time.

EDIT: Ha, while I was trying to find a delicate way of putting it, Dee came through with what I should have just been saying if I hadn't tried to be so gentle!

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Old 10-15-2012, 03:35 PM   #4
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Hey, I agree completely with both of you-no offense taken as my thoughts were/are the same as your own. I tried talking to my brother and my father who he lives with before he got the pup. I told them with his current lifestyle a pup won't fit it because they require a lot of care. My brother just ignored me and my father called my heartless. At first, since they didn't listen to me, I was planning on not paying any mind to this pup-but I can't do that.

I am making sure she is house-trained*the pup's vet told my brother to use pee-pads in her crate* O.O which I didn't agree with, so I'm taking her out as much as possible.

The first day I watched her she was whining/squawking so much and I felt bad because a pup is only suppose to be crated when no one is able to watch it/at night. So I took her out-My brother found out and he got mad at me and told me not to take her out unless she to take her outside and then put her back in.

He is starting to slack in taking her outside at night too-he takes her out every three hours. Which is too long for a pup her size.

It makes sense about how often I should exercise her/exercising her, although she's small she is the same as every other pup.

I'll try talking to my brother again but the only thing I can do is help out with the pup when I can and work on house-training her/otherwise training her.

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Ama, I remember your earlier post when you said your Brother was thinking about brining home the pup. I know you were against it then, and now I know why.
You are anything but heartless.Heartless is crating a small puppy for 10 to 12 hours a day with a wee wee pad and no training or interaction. Ignore the negative comments and your Brother getting angry with you for training his pup properly. Look at what a great job you are doing with Miya.You are a very caring person and will continue to do your best with your Brother's dog, I'm sure of it. He's not around to see all the work you are doing with HIS dog.. training her, and giving her plenty of play time. He really needs to put his big boy pants on, and thank his blessings.
@Kenzie'sMom, I was really trying to find a delicate way of responding, but I guess it didn't happen.
Ama, thanks for not getting upset with me. It just bothers me that anyone would be upset with you or call you heartless, when your only concern is for the puppy.

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Old 10-15-2012, 04:40 PM   #6
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Thanks dee

I'm trying. I think I might need to take a different path with training the pup. When I give her vocal praise-she gets really, really excited and runs all around/tries to get on my lap, loses focus.

Or maybe I just need to get some of her energy out before trying training. I got her to do one sit successfully, ha. My brother supposedly entered his pup in training classes at petsmart. I haven't seen them go yet-so I'm not sure about that.

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I agree with what everyone else has said. If your brother doesn't like it tough! Let the pup socialize with Maya too. It will be good for the pup.
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Ama, it might be a good idea to let her out and play for a while and then start her training. She's so small, that little itty bitty treats would work perfect for her training. I think she is losing focus because she is so young, and just wants to play. Maybe getting her a little tired out first, would help.

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Hi Ama, sorry to hear about developments with your brother's new puppy...

I understand you're in a difficult position, and he won't want to listen to your arguments to let the dog out of the crate. However, what you're doing now is actually making yourself even more exciting to the puppy! She(?) is shut away in her crate and every half hour you turn up and let her out for a little while of fun and contact, and then it's back to the crate again. It seems like a pretty efficient example of conditioning: the world is a boring and lonely place without you, but when you're there fun stuff happens. Explain to your brother that this crating nonsense is actually having the opposite effect to the intended, and make the argument that it would be better to let the bonding with you contain more everyday routine instead of just you being the "fun aunt", let the puppy hang out with you and be bored, let her hang out with you and have you even stop her from doing fun stuff, etc.

Hopefully that can get through to him...

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Right I will try again to post! ( cursor played up something rotten!) I really can't add anything else it all good sound advice Ama You are really setting the pup up for great success!!! So don't worry what your brother ( who is some what clueless regarding puppies) says! I just hope all your good work will not be in vain and the pup ends up as another
shelter/rescue case Iam sure if he doesn't treat tthe pup right you will be on his case!!! Great work Ama and carry on devloping this pups
skills! You already have the pup sit once so repeat the excersise exactly as you did previously (small short sessions-daily) is the order of the day!
and have loads of praise and a some treats along the way. BTW get him to join Df if you can! Let us know how you get on Ama
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