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Old 08-26-2012, 04:06 PM   #1
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Default Where to keep puppy during the day?

So this is my first post on here, I have been looking for this info online but could not find anything satisfactory.

For a little background: I currently have a very stable pack of three dogs, a 17-20 year old lab mix, a 6 year old dachshund, and a 2 1/2 year old maltese mix. They are all crate trained, although we rarely crate them, as there is no need, usually just when there is a lot of people over to keep them out of the way.

We have introduced many dogs big and small, young and old, people tend to have us sit their pet when they are unable to care for them for any length of time, everything from cats to chows to bulldogs. So my current dogs are very used to and accepting of other dogs in the home, and of course are very comfortable with each other.

We went to the shelter yesterday and picked out a 4 month old lab mix (with a little pit in her, but not much), who we will be bringing home Wedneday after her spay. The only difference now is there is no one home all day like there used to be, and my mother and I work full-time.

I intend to exercise her a lot before going to work and kenneling her while I'm gone. The only question I have is if I should kennel her in a separate room or out in the rest of the house with the other dogs?

Since my dogs are not destructive or anxious being home alone I see no reason to kennel them all. In fact I'd much rather let them roam free, because of the neighborhood we live in, having a big dog free to move about the house and yard is a nice deterrent. She is old but spry.

I would think kenneling her in the living room with the other dogs roaming free would make her resent the kennel, but Mom thinks that it will allow them to get used to each other and accept her into the pack quicker.

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Old 08-26-2012, 04:52 PM   #2
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We did the same thing with Thorben. Now, mind you...we don't have three dogs already, just one. When we brought Thorben into the house, we crated him and let Valerio run free. There was absolutely no resentment for Val or the crate. In fact, Thor loves the crate. When he wants to sleep during the day, he crawls into the crate on his own.

I don't think there would be. Keeping them exercised and happy, and making the crate a positive place should help tons. Thorben always got a special treat when he went into his crate without fuss, and it was something he could chew on for a while. Like a kong with frozen treats inside, or sometimes I soaked a wash rag water that I used to boil chicken in, or pumpkin. Anything I could put on the rag and freeze it with. Helped him tons when he started to loose his teeth.

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Old 08-26-2012, 05:01 PM   #3
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Personally I don't think you should have adopted a puppy if no one can stay home with him.
Now that sounds very unfriendly.
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This is a very short period in a dogs' life where he learns a lot of stuff that will affect the rest of his life.
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:13 PM   #4
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Hi and welcome to Df : First up a puppy of that age will need loads of attention (human) and as you know will need training. So my suggestion is do you have a trusted family member/friend/neigbour who can take the pup out for pee's and poop's and also have some quality time with some one. In some ways crating may only mask a potential problem it won't cure it Or you could enroll the pup in to puppy day care not only in the right care favility will the pup have other doggy friends but will be supervised by
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Before you rush in to this do your research on these places visit a few and ask tons of questions. IMO I woulddn't leave the 4 month old pup with the rest of the 'pack' I mean you have a very elderly 17 year old lab that migt not like a boistrus pup leaping about and bitting it's ears ect and while your pack is 'stable' a scuffle could easily break out and then mayhem No one can say this isn't going to happen, but it could!

So I would only introduce your new pupo th rest of th pack when they can all be supervised together Good luck with your new addition! And lets us know what you decide to do!
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:15 PM   #5
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Very good points you have raised techie
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If by kennel you mean crate, then I am firmly against crating 5 days a week for entire working day for any dog. A four month old can't be expected to hold their bladder for a full day, is one of you planning to return at lunchtime?

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Techie: You don't mean to say that everyone who brings home dogs is unemployed or works from home? The dog won't be home for more than a few hours on its own, and during their least active time of the day, and already checked my schedule through the vet and shelter and got full thumbs up. There will be someone here to let the pup out for a bit during the middle of the day if neeeded, and my mother's and I schedule overlap to reduce the time alone at home. I didn't "rush" into anything, this has been a long process with lots of professional guidance. I would have addressed this issue with them had it occurred to me at the time, and I wanted firsthand experience from people who have come across the issue of crating a dog while other dogs are not crated.

Bigboy: I don't understand Quite what you're saying and am not sure if you read my post entirely. I am not leaving the pup with the rest of the pack, that is the point of the crate. You crate the dog when you cannot supervise them, yes? My elderly dog is very healthy, active and nurturing of pups, and the pup will be forced to behave with good manners.

I understand you are trying to be helpful and I am not rejecting of advice, but feel a little miffed about being jumped upon like I don't know anything about what I'm doing and am going into this blind. We've crated puppies before, but at those times all the dogs have been crated, this is not the case this time so therein lies my question.

Kaos: It is like a largish enclosure? Too large for the puppy currently to be considered a traditional kennel, but she will definitely grow into it so that it is more like one. A sleeping area with a puppy pad to the side in case of piddles to keep her in for the day and help with housebreaking (you can make it smaller but for purposes of keeping her for more than a few hours, we have it larger). It is enclosed however, not a pen that the other dogs could jump into.

Thank you Malachi for actually answering my question. I'm glad to hear that your dogs did very well with this, as I'd prefer them to have as much safe interaction as possible, even if just exposure through the slats of a crate. I will give it a shot after she is well-rested from surgery, unless someone has any negative experience with this to add.

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Coyote my apoligies Can I ask you how long is the pup going to be crated for? And is puppy day care out of the question?
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That's all right.

Unfortunately puppy daycare is somewhat out of the question. There aren't many places that will take in anything somewhat vaguely pitbull-looking. The only place that has so far did not have any real supervision, but I will keep looking if this turns into more a long-term practice.

She'll be in the enclosure roughly five hours, and I get off early on Mondays and Fridays. If she has any issues with it I can have a neighbor take her our during the middle of the day. I don't anticipate kenneling her after she is housebroken and well-integrated with the rest of the dogs, and I know I can trust her home alone. However long that takes is fine, we are patient.

I still just want to know if there is any inherent issue in having one crated dog among non-crated dogs or if I should put her in a separate room.

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Hello Coyote, welcome!

I have had two dogs together in the past, one a young pup and the other was a ten year old at the time. I also worked full time. During the day, the older dog had the run of the house as she always had. The pup I kept in the kitchen while I was away. I secured the entrances to the kitchen with baby gates and also had the pup's crate in there... with the door open so she was free to come and go as she pleased. There were no problems (other than some kitchen curtains that the pup managed to have a good chew on :-( ) but it was a very workable situation for me and my dogs.
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