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Unread 03-05-2010, 11:01 AM   #1
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Default Potty Training a 5 Week Old Puppy

We are currently in the process of house/potty training our now 5 week old puppy. We have had her for a little over a week. To be honest I personally have never had to house train a puppy so I take whatever information I can get on the subject and do what I can with it.

I take her out for a pee every hour, sometimes more. I take her outside to do her business after she eats/drinks and after she wakes up regardless on the last time she went out. She usually show signs that she needs to go such as whimpering or erratically sniff in circles. I try my best to get her outside before she has an accident in the house.

When i'm gone, I have newspaper set up by the door. When my boyfriend and I are both gone she gets a smaller room to herself. For the first few days she was very persistant with doing her business on the paper. But the past week our so things seem to be falling apart.

She has been doing her business behind her crate. Also, after I take her outside(and after she pees outside) I bring her inside and 5 minutes later she does her business on the carpet. After she does this I take her outside and give her a little while but she never goes again.

I had some people suggest putting her face near her business and telling her "no". Personally I dont like doing that what so ever, I just dont see how it trains a dog. Also I have been told that if I catch her doing her business I should scold her and put her in her crate. On the other hand, I have been told not to scold such a young puppy, that they are like toddlers and scolding does nothing but hinder you. (Up to this point I have not scolded her, I just pick her up and take her outside.)


But it is getting rather frustrating in recent days. She no longer shows signs that she is about to go she just does her business. And like I said, I will take her out, she will go, I leave her outside for a bit just to make sure, take her inside and 5 minutes later she'll go in the house.

Please give me some pointers or instructions or tips that have helped you in the past or things that you know have worked. I know puppies take alot of time and due to the fact that she is the most stinkin' cute thing I have seen in my entire life, I have patience to spare.

Ps. I have read the FAQ on Housebreaking/Potty training. I understand she hasnt been in training that long and I understand that her age may have something to do with it. I just want to be sure i'm doing everything correctly and be informed on what I can possibly change to help progess successfully.
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I've never trained a puppy that young! I think that really at that age this is like a newborn in diapers - no bowel or bladder control at all. I wouldn't expect too much from training just yet. I think all you can do is give her ample opportunity to do her business outdoors and praise her when she does and ignore the rest. Hopefully there are no other dogs around though because I would be worried about letting a puppy that young be around the feces of other dogs. Her immune system isn't developed yet and she preumably hasn't had any shots.
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I had some people suggest putting her face near her business and telling her "no". Personally I dont like doing that what so ever, I just dont see how it trains a dog.
This is about the worst possible advice anyone can give you. At best it will have no effect and at worst your puppy will think you want her to eat her poop and may well start doing so.

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Also I have been told that if I catch her doing her business I should scold her and put her in her crate.
This is the second worst possible advice anyone can give you. At best it will have no effect and at worst your pup will figure out that you don't want to watch her poop so she will refuse to do it while you're with her outdoors AND start being sneaky about it indoors, doing it when she knows you won't see her.
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Im seconding skunky on the worst advice ever.
You will only create a dog that will HIDE when she has to do her business.
A dog don't develop a full controlled bladder until a few months from now. So she just can't hold/control it. So if she dont have to go when she gets out, she wont and if she has to go 2 minutes after coming in she will. And using a paper will only train her that it is ok to go indoors.

Now if you catch her in the act, say a mild no, scop her up (that will close the bladder) and bring her out and praise her when she does it outside. That way she will learn you want it outside and the more control she gets over her bladder the fewer the accidents will be.
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I think there is a section in FAQ about puppies. Try reading it too for more info.
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. And using a paper will only train her that it is ok to go indoors.
So in other words, take the paper away and strictly stick to making it outdoors?

What should I do at night or when no one is around to get her outdoors?
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yes.. id take the paper away..

and if noone is around I'd say be careful where you step in the mornings

Remove all area rugs etc and be consistent. Usually by 10 weeks they hold it over night.

Granted I always had my pups in the bed, they slept better that way and less accidents.

Its only pee, and she's young, be as consistent as you can for now, and she will be housebroken soon enough. An accident isnt a failure. My shar pei mix was suffering from separation anxiety (they take time to mature and are very owner bonded) so out of pure anxiety she'd have accidents occasionnally til she was about a year old.

Nothing to make a big deal out of. After that she has only had maybe 2-3 accidents indoors, all when she's been sick. She'll learn!
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Granted I always had my pups in the bed, they slept better that way and less accidents.
For the first several days I had her sleeping in the bed with me. She would wake me up several times through out the night to go pee. Nothing like getting out of a warm bed at 3am only to freeze your butt off cause your little one thinks its playtime in the snow!.

But the last couple days she hasnt been waking me up and has been peeing on the bed. And if its not on the bed she jumps off and pees on the carpet THAN wakes me up only because she cant get back onto the bed by herself haha.

Now she stays in the room beside mine with non-carpet floors at night. I would prefer for her to be back in my room, makes me feel better and i'm sure she would feel safer. I was thinking about making a little set up by my bed for her to stay in during the night. But the main problem is that she doesnt bark or whimper to wake me up when she has to go.

I was thinking maybe to try the Bell training. I know people here have talked about it and my neighbour trained both her Aussies at a young age to use bells when they need to relieve themselves. If I train her that ringing the bells means bathroom, could I possibly set up bells in her little area to wake me up at night or am I getting ahead of myself? I know shes still very young and I dont want to overwhelm her.
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You are right about the age.. this is one of the issues with taking such a young puppy.
If you do too much training with her now you can cause a stressed animal.

I would say take the puddles, let her sleep on something you can wash easily that you have next to the bed so you can lower your hand to have her calm as a compromise til she is a tad bigger.

I dont have much experience with such young puppies but the age of 4 weeks is when I feel their brains start developing. The first four weeks all they do is poo, pee, eat, sleep basically. So take your time when she's around 8 weeks Id say you can start see if she will ring the bell. However what you can do that wont really overwhelm her, put the bell up at the door. Just before you go out you ring the bell, then out. That will make her relate the sound to going out and when she's 8 week you can probably train her to do it but then she already have a bottom relation to it. Bell = out (conditioning) wihtout having to overwhelm the brain with it.
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She' not ready for the bells yet. Until and unless she understands that outside is the only place to go, about all that is likely to happen is she'll ring the bell for the sheer hoot of watching you come running. That's why she isn't barking or whimpering to let you know. Really at five weeks there isn't a whole lot you can do - she doesn't have the control. By the time she realizes she need to go, she is already in the middle of peeing or pooing so about all you can do I think is create a positive association with messing outdoors and avoid creating a negative one under any other conditions.
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I love how skunky say things so much better than me *lol*

here's a link that can give you an idea about where your pup is..
http://www.diamondsintheruff.com/Dev...talStages.html

Due to her situation this might help you to give her some make up for what the "breeders" have created.
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