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Old 10-14-2006, 01:48 AM   #1
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Hi, I haven't posted for a bit here, too busy! But last night I was so embarrassed by the behaviour of my puppy. He is 17 weeks old and he was at his 4th lesson of puppy kindergarten class. He was by far the largest dog there this time (usually there are 2 others that are larger) and for some reason last night he was completely hyper! He got neutered one week ago today. He wasn't being nasty to the other dogs, but he was just running straight into the other puppies, jumping over them, knocking them down, standing over them, sitting on them (not humping them). He really was having fun, no hackles raised, not biting hard enough to make any of them yelp but still he was absolutely crazy! The instructor put a leash on him (hence my embarrassment) so that she could step on the leash everytime he got too pushy. The difference I could see last night from the other nights were that all the puppies were male instead of having a mix, all of them were at least 4-6 inches shorter than him, we'd missed a class last week (some of the dogs were sick so they cancelled the class) and my husband was with me last night and usually isn't. My 11 year old dog is feeling very sluggish and not eating the last few days so isn't playing with the puppy very much either. My puppy is a lab/border collie/chow cross. He plays rough with my older dog usually and constantly bites at his back legs, or sits on his head, or stands over him, wants everything that the older dog has etc etc. What should I do? He really isn't hurting the other dogs in the class but he is pretty rough playing. My older dog puts up with a lot from him and just once in a while puts him in his place. The good thing is that he's getting much better on the leash lately!

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Hello,

I have the same problem, but my puppy is 6 months old and graduated, just last week from the basics.

We went into the intermediate class today, and she was a complete Sh**

I had to withdraw half way through the class because she had lost interest and was being disruptive.

Yes, the "puppy" classes, were broken up into 15 minute intervals, and the intermediate classes are broken into 30 minute intervals.

I spoke with the trainers, but they said that she was ready for the intermediate class.

I'm not so really sure myself - if she causes disruptions in class, isn't it better that I withdraw?

Just to let the others get on with their work?

I know that dog's have to "work", even if they are distracted by others, but I feel so bad that mine is "the" distraction.

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Well I thinkit is Just puppy behavior.. to some degree.. And being he is part Border Collie, they are FULL Of energy. And since they are used as herders, they will prolly bite ankles of other pets, and some are even known to try to herd small children. Maybe if this class is in the evening, trytaking him for a Super good walk in the morn.. or a few hrs before class.. tokind get some of this puppy energy a bit lower.. before class.. But i am not sure... Maybe another one of the members here willhave a better idea.
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The behavior of yr puppy only shows that he is happy and heathy.
Next time try to tire him out so that he can be good in class.i would take him for a walk or the dog park before going to class.It will make it a lot easier. Also have especially delicious treats,just for the class and voila!!.

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Yes, what Goldenhova said. Take him for a short jog before you go to class. That should burn off a little energy and he will have less to horse around.
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The behavior of yr puppy only shows that he is happy and heathy.
Next time try to tire him out so that he can be good in class.i would take him for a walk or the dog park before going to class.It will make it a lot easier. Also have especially delicious treats,just for the class and voila!!.
Thank you for your comments everyone! I would love to do the treats to keep him focussed but we're not allowed to. The instructor does not use treats at all to teach them. She doesn't use a clicker or treats because she said your dog should learn to do things without a reward later on and this means you don't have to wean them off working for treats only. Its funny, because he was completely mellow in the van on the way to class, almost falling asleep. Then after class, he fell asleep in the van on the way home! He also ate a whole bowlful of food when we got home though so maybe he was hungry? Animalhouse: I agree about the border collie temperment, maybe he is just genetically geared to biting at the back of other dogs legs. I try to stop him from harassing my older dog but he just can't seem to help it! At least he doesn't bite at my 2 little girls at all when they're walking around. Sometimes he will mouth at them when they're playing games with him but I just asked them just now and they both say that he only nibbles very gently, never hurting them. He does like it when they get on the floor and roll around with him, he loves knocking them over when they're sitting down. I kind of feel like this puppy kindergarten is too easy on the dogs. We're not getting up and moving around enough keeping the dogs busy. We're sitting down a lot listening to what she is saying. I would like it if we could be walking around in a big circle practicing things etc. But maybe I'm just expecting too much of a kindergarten class, I guess my older dog had a stricter kindergarten class 11 years ago. Back then, we learned heel, stay, come, sit, with a choke chain and treats! Completely different. And my older dog is the most mellow, relaxed easy going dog you could ever meet! Maybe the next lesson will be better. I will try exercising him a bunch before class, maybe burn off some energy before we go. .. Thanks again for the comments!

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Is this class an off lead socialisation class - ie no actual training component? Or have I misunderstood?

It sounds like your pup is very confident around other dogs (which is great), and perhaps starting to develop some bullying behaviour (not so great but quite normal) since he was the largest pup. I think your trainer was right to pop him on a lead so that he could be stopped and given time to calm down before being allowed to play again. No need to feel embarassed, there will always be timid dogs and more confident dogs. If you feel he is becoming over-confident with the puppies it may be time to find him some appropriate older dogs to interact with also. Playing exclusively with other smaller puppies can give them a slightly inflated opinion of their own importance!

At his age I would also want to start some basic obedience training in order to start developing some self-control around other dogs. This can be very difficult if he permanently expects to be able to bowl in and play every time he sees another dog. I would also be very wary of any trainer who doesn't use food or toys to motivate dogs during training. Learning to do things without a reward generally translates as learning to do things to avoid a punishment.

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