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Old 07-15-2009, 11:12 AM   #1
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My puppy is a few days sh of 5 months old, and still not pooping outside. First thing in the morning she will, but after that I can watch her like a hawk and take her out every half hour and she still doesn't go outside, she will wait for the next morning. I took her out at 9, so since it was still only an hour later, I let her roam and play without me on top of her, and she pooped under the table. If she had been outside, I know she wouldn't have done it. I'm going back to NO freetime in the house, but, no matter how much I take her out, she will only do it outside that first time. Is there anything more I can do? (She gets praise and treats for doing it outside)

Also, when she eats from any dish, she looks like she will be beaten at any moment. She sneaks up, grab a bite, and backs up. She is hunched up the whole time. I constantly praise her for eating out of her dish, but she still does this. I worry that if she's scared doing it, she could bite or some such if someone came near her. Can I do something to get her to be happy with her dish? I know she won't eat out of her pink dishes I bought her (She did until we went camping and ants crawled in it and she tried to get a bite of food and got bit) but even dishes she will eat out of, shes scared. How can I get her over this fear?

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A couple of thoughts.....

Sometimes doggies need more than just the opportunity to go outside, they need some exercise to get their bowels moving. Have you tried taking her out and playing with her or going on a along walk? And if she is pooping in the same place indoors, you might want to clean it with an enzymatic cleaner to get rid of the poop smell.

It sounds like you've hit the nail on the head with her eating problem - something in her food bowl bit her once and she isn't going to trust it again. Can you try a completely different type of dish? Like metal instead of ceramic or vice versa?
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:00 PM   #3
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The longer Lucy is one a walk, the more poops we get out of her. We asked the vet about this and she said that is normal for a dog.
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:27 PM   #4
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I walk her a lot, or play fetch, I'll do it more and longer.

The feeding she has done since I got her, and she acts scared with every dish. Its just the pink ones she wont go near at all. Since day one she has acted like she will get beaten for eating from it. She's not scared of the dish, she's scared to eat from it.

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Laceface is she a rescue pup? It's difficult to decide what to feed her off. Does she eat dry dog food? (Kibble) You could try a handful of kibble in your hand where her bowl would normaly be and get her to eat of your hand, keep doing this and then introduce her feeding bowl but still put your hand over the bowl with kibble in it and coax her over get her to sit and with the other hand get a bit of kibble from the hand over the bowl and pretend to eat the kibble while looking at her this should give her confidence again in eating from her bowl. It's going to take time but it's achievable and it won't be easy. Re the pooing in the house the fact is she is going in the morning. outside. I would go over board with praise when she does it in the morning and treat with a tasty treat Then on subsequent outings later on in the day do the same praise lavishly and treat she will soom realise after poops I will get a treat! I would increase slightly the length of time you are out with her. Good luck Laceface
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:35 PM   #6
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Do the bowls move when she eats from them we have rubber bottomed bowls so they stay in place and whe sometimes ours have to eat from a bowl that moves as they eat they appear worried about this and will snatch and back away slightly, its rare we have to do this but has on occassions and I did notice this

Mabel was about 6 months before she was going outside although she would go when out on a walk, she is only fully house trained now at 10 month and we still get the odd accident so i suppose I shouldnt say fully trained shes a little imp at times

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For the first time in forever she pooped outside this afternoon! Then came inside to pee.. the monster, lol. It was because I kept catching her going under the table (her favorite spot!)

With the dish, she will eat out of it, she just looks and acts terrified. I'm worried that down the line, if she doesn't get over that, she might react badly if someone comes near. She does it, just doesn't seem comfortable. It doesn't matter what dish or where, she just isn't comfortable, unless I'm sitting right near by and praising.

She was basically a rescue, one of her litter mates is now pregnant and she's only 5 months old! I wonder if her siblings wouldn't let her in the bowl or something. I got a clicker today, so we are going to start clicker training tomorrow. Can the clicker be utilized with putting a word to going potty? She pees when I say "go potty" but I think we need a separate word for pooping

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For the first time in forever she pooped outside this afternoon! Then came inside to pee.. the monster, lol. It was because I kept catching her going under the table (her favorite spot!)

With the dish, she will eat out of it, she just looks and acts terrified. I'm worried that down the line, if she doesn't get over that, she might react badly if someone comes near. She does it, just doesn't seem comfortable. It doesn't matter what dish or where, she just isn't comfortable, unless I'm sitting right near by and praising.

She was basically a rescue, one of her litter mates is now pregnant and she's only 5 months old! I wonder if her siblings wouldn't let her in the bowl or something. I got a clicker today, so we are going to start clicker training tomorrow. Can the clicker be utilized with putting a word to going potty? She pees when I say "go potty" but I think we need a separate word for pooping
Laceface I am now wondering if it was infact insects that bothered her while she was eating, Ever since you took ownership of her has she always been scared of eating out of her bowl? If answer is yes then she could well have been mistreated while eating or been hit while near or eating her food.So she is associating feeding times with something not nice. Did you try my suggestion in post # 5 re hand over bowl with some food in the cupped hand? You also say she doesn't feel comfortable unless you are close by and praising her well that's what you could carry on with but gradually each day/week do this less and less so she doesn't expect for ever.

Well done on getting her to poop out side in the afternoon but why oh why did you allow her back in with out checking if she peed first? ( not having a go ) When I was training Nipper to go out side ( yes there was mistakes) I use to leave the back door open and go out side with her she would either poo or pee but not both, then she would bolt straight back in again and do the other in the kitchen my friend woud say oh she doesn't want to do the other ( which ever it was) and then the obvious thing dawned on me close the back door then she can't get back in. Then you can concerntrate on getting her to do both. I wouldn't think you need 2 different commands one for pee and one for poo. This will complicate things. So when you take her out side just use one word. Usually Nipper will pee first then she will sniff and sniff and sniff so then I will say go and do poops in a nice voice! You may have to say this half a dozen times but it does work. While you are getting her trained on this have some tasty treats and a double helping of praise at hand! Again consistancy and repetition are the keys to success. Very good luck
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One of her litter sisters is pregnant at 5 months old how terrible what is happening about this pregnancy aborted I hope for the sake of the puppy, she must have come in to season early Poor little pup, god forbid I really just cant understand how owners can allow this sort of thing to go on, yes I breed my dogs but hey Im really aware of their health needs and when is best time to do things on their terms. 5 months old this pregnancy could kill this pup if it goes full term.
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One of her litter sisters is pregnant at 5 months old how terrible what is happening about this pregnancy aborted I hope for the sake of the puppy, she must have come in to season early Poor little pup, god forbid I really just cant understand how owners can allow this sort of thing to go on, yes I breed my dogs but hey Im really aware of their health needs and when is best time to do things on their terms. 5 months old this pregnancy could kill this pup if it goes full term.
Doesn't bear thinking about It's either ignorance or they couldn't care less as they are money grabbers at whatever the cost to the animal!
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