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Old 09-25-2006, 09:23 AM   #1
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So little Angus is now 8 1/2 wks. old and I am on the verge of a breakdown soon! We just got back from vacation for 2 weeks and while we were gone I had a friend watching him. I had him crate trained at night and although he would still get up several times a night atleast he slept in his crate. While we were away my friend would not use the crate saying that all he did was bark all night long, so they confined him to the bathroom where he would sleep all night. Here is the problem: now that we are home, thanks to her he will no longer even go near his crate and if placed in it he will continiously scream, if placed in the bathroom eventually he will fall asleep but is waking up every 2-3 hours to go outside and then we have to have atleast 20-30 min. of playtime before he will go back to sleep. I am losing on average 2-4 hours of sleep a night and am getting to be a very cranky person. What should I do, I know he is still very young and will outgrow this but how long before he will sleep thru the night? and why would he do it for my friend but not for me? I need help-we start puppy class tommorrow, so maybe that will help but I need a better solution than getting up every 3 hours. I would just let him cry it out but we live in an apartment with very thin walls and I do not want to upset the neighbors at 1 :00 in the morning. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

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Old 09-25-2006, 10:34 AM   #2
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He' is ONLY 8 1/2 weeks old.That right there should be your answer. At that age he will not be able to hold it through the night. 3 hours is about right. I would not play with him no matter how much he whines or barks, because what your doing is giving in to him and he knows it. When he has to go potty let him go and then put him right back in the crate. Some dogs will take longer than others to realize that they won't get their way.Do you keep something in the crate with him that would make him feel more comfortable about being in there, like a toy, or a blanket? Thats if he doesn't chew things and try to eat them, we wouldn't want to baby to choke. Is there a night lite on in the room he is being kept in? he might think you are coming back and he just doesn't know when because you left a light on. There's always the choice of putting the crate in your room so he is near you and it might calm him.He will eventually get used to the crate again, but unfortunatly, it does take time. Have you ever slept with something on that could "drown out" the noise? Like a fan? that way you could get some better sleep.I hope you get some sleep, I know how hard it is to try to train a pup and stay calm and relaxed when all you want to do is sleep!! lol
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Old 09-25-2006, 10:39 AM   #3
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While at work/at night/while out/ leave your pup in the crate, put a radio on quietly beside your pup's crate. This should help sooth your pup, you can also try a ticking clock, this help to sooth them as well.

Do not have the crate in the basement ( not sure where you put it ? ) have it maybe in the livingroom or somewhere, where you are during the day so the smells are all fimilar. A lot of people like to put crates in cool damp basement and the dog feels isolated, the smells are different and it scares them.

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I am not sure if this will be helpful for you, but this is how I got my now 8 week pup to like the crate.
Everytime she fell asleep on the floor (day or evening) I would pick her up & put her in her crate. I would leave the door open. That way she would always wake up in the crate & there was no stress because the door was not shut. She was able to leave the crate anytime she wanted. She then started going in it for naps, on her own. I still would move her into it, if she feel asleep on the floor. Always leaving the door open, if we were up.
The 1st week, at night, was tough. Crying & barking - I think she was scared and missing her litter mates. Also, I was putting her in the crate at bed time but she was wide awake. She would pitch a fit, if she was awake going in. I decided to apply the same therory to the crate at night. Wait until she falls asleep, then put her in it. (but I latch the door.) She wakes up once, in the middle of the night, to go to the bathroom. I take her out, then ignore her once we are back inside. She quickly falls asleep at my feet, then I pop her in the crate & go back to bed.
I have been very pleased with the results.

Another trick that helped her: She is crated in the kitchen, so I run the dishwasher when we crate her for the night. She seems to find the noise very soothing. And we have clean dishes in the morning.

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While at work/at night/while out/ leave your pup in the crate, put a radio on quietly beside your pup's crate. This should help sooth your pup, you can also try a ticking clock, this help to sooth them as well.

Do not have the crate in the basement ( not sure where you put it ? ) have it maybe in the livingroom or somewhere, where you are during the day so the smells are all fimilar. A lot of people like to put crates in cool damp basement and the dog feels isolated, the smells are different and it scares them.

I have a 6 week old yorkie pup and he just crys wen im at work so i think i will try leavin the radio on for him or a ticking clock..

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Hi, I hope this helps you and anyone else out there having trouble at night with puppies:

I have had 7 dogs in my life and the only one I ever had trouble with at night as a puppy was my very first dog(I had no experience).

I've found the very best way to have a puppy sleeping through the night with the odd trip to the garden was by having the puppy sleep in a crate right next to my bed. The puppy, being used to its brothers and sisters does NOT want to be alone. It WILL cry the house down at night if you leave it alone.

This is my M.O.:
before it's time to go to bed I play with the puppy so that he gets good and tired. Now, after play puppies WILL pee. So, after play (watch for him suddenly wondering off from you with a very earnest look on his face) I take Puppy outside into the garden where he'll do his bizz. We go back inside and I'll take puppy to the bedroom and I let him potter about (getting more and more sleepy) whilst I get ready for bed. I'll even take him to the bathroom with me and let him wonder around.

We'll go back to the bedroom. I'll give him a SAFE toy to fool around with at his leisure, but by this time he's quite tired. I'll allow him to fall asleep somewhere on the floor at which point I'll transfer him to his crate. Voila! Puppy asleep in crate where he'll snore for a good 3-4 hours before wanting to pee again. When he does I just take him to the garden where he pees immediately. I take him back to the crate where his toy/toys are and leave him to go back to sleep.

Puppies are a bit of hard work the first few weeks. But it is VITAL that you, from the very first day he comes into your life, develope a practical routine and STICK to it.

Tip: Every single time you take Puppy out the pee say something like "peepee! Good boy!" and praise him/give him a tiny treat. It doesn't take long before he'll pee on command

Right now I have an 11 month old Great Dane/Saint Bernard who has been an absolute dream since I got him at 8 weeks.

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Hi, I hope this helps you and anyone else out there having trouble at night with puppies:


I have had 7 dogs in my life and the only one I ever had trouble with at night as a puppy was my very first dog(I had no experience).

I've found the very best way to have a puppy sleeping through the night with the odd trip to the garden was by having the puppy sleep in a crate right next to my bed. The puppy, being used to its brothers and sisters does NOT want to be alone. It WILL cry the house down at night if you leave it alone.

This is my M.O.:
before it's time to go to bed I play with the puppy so that he gets good and tired. Now, after play puppies WILL pee. So, after play (watch for him suddenly wondering off from you with a very earnest look on his face) I take Puppy outside into the garden where he'll do his bizz. We go back inside and I'll take puppy to the bedroom and I let him potter about (getting more and more sleepy) whilst I get ready for bed. I'll even take him to the bathroom with me and let him wonder around.

We'll go back to the bedroom. I'll give him a SAFE toy to fool around with at his leisure, but by this time he's quite tired. I'll allow him to fall asleep somewhere on the floor at which point I'll transfer him to his crate. Voila! Puppy asleep in crate where he'll snore for a good 3-4 hours before wanting to pee again. When he does I just take him to the garden where he pees immediately. I take him back to the crate where his toy/toys are and leave him to go back to sleep.

Puppies are a bit of hard work the first few weeks. But it is VITAL that you, from the very first day he comes into your life, develope a practical routine and STICK to it.

Tip: Every single time you take Puppy out the pee say something like "peepee! Good boy!" and praise him/give him a tiny treat. It doesn't take long before he'll pee on command


Right now I have an 11 month old Great Dane/Saint Bernard who has been an absolute dream since I got him at 8 weeks.

Oh my god your soooo lucky my yorkie harley wont stop crying until he gets in bed with me and my boyfriend!! Unless he shatted and he wont wake us up until 4am!! Howeveer wen hes in bed with us he will put his paw on my face to tell me he needs to pee!

I dont know how to train a dog as ive never had one b4 !! So thanks for the tip hunni!!

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Thanks to everyone for their advice and suggestions. We started puppy class a few days ago and even they said move the crate, so now it has been next to my side of the bed for 2 nights now, and I am not sure what I was ever thinking having it out in the living room-he has become a dream dog ever since we moved it. First night he was up several times but went back in with no problem and last night we only got up once around midnight or so. He also seems to be behaving better too!~ I am now able to get sleep and we are able to enjoy each other better! Thanks! I think it was hard for me to keep in mind he is only 8 1/2 wks old, we have had him since he was only 1 week old, so it seems like we have had him forever and he shoulkd have learned this stuff by now, but then I think back and reality hits and I remember he is only a baby, so now I am a little more patient with the whole thing!

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That is awsome! thanks for the updates!
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:16 PM   #10
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Ok we are definatly making progress~ Angus slept thru the night last night and I cannot tell you how happy I am, he also does not whine, cry or bark now when we put him in the crate, whoever's idea it was to put his crate in the bedroom-THANKS!!!!!!!! I would give you a big hug right now, but that is not possible. He is already starting to behave better as well! I am just so glad to have a dog that I am not always getting mad at now! Thanks for all the advice.

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