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Old 03-12-2009, 12:20 PM   #1
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I have an 8 month old Sprocker who has been difficult from day one.

He has had various problems with Collitis (now seems to be sorted) and also with excessive play biting and biting my trouser legs and feet etc...

We have worked really hard with him via positive reinforcement training and were finally starting to see some results. I even started to love him, which had been difficult to feel when he was hanging off my foot or arm!

Anyway, I need your help again.

Since Stanley turned 7.5 months old his old problems have reared their head again.
He has taken to jumping and biting me again, usually when I am preparing his food or when I want him to go outside for the toilet. He grabs onto my leg with his front legs and bites my thigh and jumps up and bites my hands whilst I am trying to fend him off. He used to do this alot and I used a water squirter to stop him which does work.

This morning was particuarly bad as I didnt have a squirter with me and did not know how to stop him. I pinned him down to the floor but when I let go he came back at me twice as hard. He bites me but I know it is not agressive but it is really boistrous and I don't want that behaviour.

My main question is, do you think this lapse is because he is in his teenage years (he was neutered at 6 months)? My dog trainer thinks so and advised me to go back to using the deterents when he misbehaves.

I guess I am disappointed that it seems all our hard work (and we have worked really hard with him) has been undone. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it normal? Is there hope that he will return to the nice dog he was starting to become?

Any advice welcome.

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Stick at it, be persistent. If the water worked before, try it again,

What is your reaction when he bites you? Some dogs just love the attention!

My cocker was a little monster as a puppy, it took us months to stop her biting. She could be really vicious and at one point I thought she was going to be a real problem. She grew out of it though and is rock steady now, hasn't ever growled, snarled or behaved in any manner of aggressive way to a person in her whole adult life. She can be a little sulky but she's brilliant with people, kids, babies - just an attention seeker.

Cockers (and yours is half cocker) have VERY strong personalities, they will push the boundaries. I also had a springer before Molly so I had quite the contrast between the happy, biddable springer and the feisty 'alpha' cocker! I hear of quite a few with aggression problems, basically they need a firmer hand than other breeds of spaniel to keep them happy and stable. By this I mean not getting away with things, not any kind of punishment. They're very, very intelligent dogs and will learn very rapidly how to manipulate you.

Stick with it though, teach the firm boundaries and this kind of personality eventually makes for a wonderful dog.
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:42 PM   #3
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Thanks ever so much for the reply.

In the past when he has 'an episode' I have squirted him but today I just had to try to push him away. I used my hands to do that (which I know is the wrong thing to do) but I guess he took me by surprise, I didnt know what else to do. He is brilliant with other people and dogs, never puts his teeth on them. Everyone loves him.

The well balanced dog that we hope to have seems a long way away at times! He is such a strong character and you are right, as soon as you give him an inch he takes full advantage. He is extremely bright and really knows how to push your buttons. He needs to understand that I am above him but he just tries to push me and is testing all the time. I have reinstated the daily training (he goes to weekly classes) so hopefully he starts to realise he has to do what I tell him, even if it is just a 'sit'.

I can't wait till he is grown up!

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You'll get there in the end, the training classes will help and hopefully your trainer will be able to point you in the right direction.

Cockers are very attention seeking and it's hard trying to keep a puppy cocker on the straight and narrow....give an inch and they will take a mile. That's why some end up snappy, they've got a superiority complex! Maybe stanley's springer side will win out soon and you'll get some peace.

I wouldn't swap Molly for the world now, she's so entertaining and 'human' in her moods. She's the only dog I've known to sulk and strop about, sighing when she doesn't get her own way. But the flip side is a really funny, very interactive dog who has made even the most reluctant of people a fan of her. She grew out of her teenage stroppiness and is just a happy girly now.
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Lapses happen, sometimes it is because a teenage dog will test the boundaries, sometimes it is because we are not as consistent as we woud like to think when training.

What can help is using NILIF to set the overall tone for how you and Stan interact.
http://www.dogforum.org/showthread.php?t=15999
The other thing is that if Stan is exhibiting behavior you do not want, absolutely do not reward him. What that means is that if he is doing it to get attention or entertainment, ignore him. Even if it seems impossible, ignoring him could eb the best way to get him to stop. It won't happen immediately, as it will take time for his doggy brain to realize that he can't start a game with you this way.

Good luck and believe it or not, you'll probably miss those silly puppy days when Stan is full-grown.
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You can see now why its not a good idea to force a dog into an alpha roll. They will retaliate. Try to be consistent, training never ends. That's why we say to reward the good & ignore the bad so it will extinguish. When feeding him tell him to sit & wait & don't let him eat until he's looking at you.
My cat was like that as a kitten, would bite our feet & ankles whenever we walked past her. The advise given was to show no pain, no matter how it hurt. Give him something else to play with instead of your trousers.
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