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Old 03-09-2009, 03:21 PM   #1
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Default Trouble with our 3 1/2 month old rottie pup

Hi we are having trouble with our 3 1/2 month old rottie pup. He knows not to come up stairs or in the kitchen, but will go in the kitchen when were not watching. He knows hes not allowed in there because he runs straight back out. Also we are having trouble with him coming up the stairs, He thinks its a game and no matter how many times you tell him to get down he will just come back up. I have also noticed that if you tell him off he will bark and sometimes try to bite you (yaps towards you), he does this also when you grab his collar to lead him somewhere. any help would be fantastic Thanks

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Old 03-09-2009, 03:26 PM   #2
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Why isnt he allowed upstairs?

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Old 03-09-2009, 06:05 PM   #3
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I'm going to suggest you find a professional trainer or behaviorist to take a look. I can't see the behavior, so idk if it's aggression for sure, but a 3 month old puppy intentionally trying to bite (if that's indeed what he's doing, he could just be playing for all you or I know) is a very bad sign. Again, idk for sure if it's aggression, nobody here can tell you, so you need to see a behaviorist.

In the meantime, cease any rough/physical handling with him because if it is indeed pre aggression, this is where it's coming from. Don't grab his collar or drag him out of the room.....Call him out, use treats to entice him out, or pick him up and gently carry him out.

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He knows not to come up stairs or in the kitchen, but will go in the kitchen when were not watching. He knows hes not allowed in there because he runs straight back out. Also we are having trouble with him coming up the stairs, He thinks its a game and no matter how many times you tell him to get down he will just come back up.
No, he doesn't know not to come up the stairs into the kitchen. If he did, he wouldn't do it. Right now, all you've taught him is that he's not allowed to come up the stairs into the kitchen when your watching. He'll do it only when your back is turned because there's no consequence for it and he has no reason to want to stay down there. When you come back in, he knows he's going to get yelled at or corrected, so of course he's going to go back in....But he's not associating the correction with being in the kitchen, he's associating it with you coming into the room.

The solution to this? Either allow him upstairs, or get a baby gate. He's too young right now to understand that and he probably does just think it's a game.

Also, may I ask what downstairs is? Is it a cellar or basement or garage or something? Does your family spend a lot of time downstairs? If you are living upstairs and your keeping him downstairs alone, it's unrealistic to expect him to stay down there on his own free will when you are upstairs. He doesn't want to be isolated, he wants to be with his family.

And finally, have you started basic training with him? How is is recall? Does he know any commands? How much do you play with him?
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Since I know you also have the food issue with him, it sounds like you are close to loose control over the little one already.

I say private trainer at home now just as sugardog that can put you on the right track before it goes worse...
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If we want any of our dogs to stay out of certain areas we have baby gates put up or we just shut the doors till we feel its ok for them to be in this room i.e study and lounge if we are not there and not at all in the bedroom but we have a baby gate here so they can still see and hear us but when we are there other than the bedrooms they are allowed free roam wev made all rooms dog freindly as far as all electrical cables are hidden out of harms way

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Hi we are having trouble with our 3 1/2 month old rottie pup. He knows not to come up stairs or in the kitchen, but will go in the kitchen when were not watching. He knows hes not allowed in there because he runs straight back out. Also we are having trouble with him coming up the stairs, He thinks its a game and no matter how many times you tell him to get down he will just come back up. I have also noticed that if you tell him off he will bark and sometimes try to bite you (yaps towards you), he does this also when you grab his collar to lead him somewhere. any help would be fantastic Thanks
He's a baby puppy. Of course he thinks going upstairs is a game. It gets him lots of attention. Block his way with a baby gate.

At this age they often think a moving hand is an invitation to play. Don't grab him by the collar; but direct him where you want him to go with your own body or by calling him. Keep grabbing the collar and he'll learn to duck away so you can't reach him.

Set the boundaries and be one hundred percent consistant at all times! Don't make it play one moment and training the next.

It probably wouldn't hurt to contact a trainer to help determine if the biting is the beginning of aggression or just undesireable puppy play behavior.
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Hes a 3 month old puppy .Puppies his age play
He thinks you are playing tag with him when you grab the collar you are "tagging" him .He doesnt want to be caught so he runs away

I dont get why people have dogs if they are not going to include them in normal everyday activities such as being upstairs when the rest of the family is upstairs

What you are teaching him by grabbing his collar is to RUN AWAY when you go near him.And when he gets older he will run faster and bite harder

So yea that was my 3 cents worth of info

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Hes a 3 month old puppy .Puppies his age play
He thinks you are playing tag with him when you grab the collar you are "tagging" him .He doesnt want to be caught so he runs away

I dont get why people have dogs if they are not going to include them in normal everyday activities such as being upstairs when the rest of the family is upstairs


What you are teaching him by grabbing his collar is to RUN AWAY when you go near him.And when he gets older he will run faster and bite harder

So yea that was my 3 cents worth of info
We don't know that.

For all we know, "downstairs" is a living room or den or something and they do spend a lot of time there.

This is why I asked for clarification.
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We don't know that.

For all we know, "downstairs" is a living room or den or something and they do spend a lot of time there.

This is why I asked for clarification.

Thats my point if they spend alot of time in one room why would they NOT include the dog where they spend the most time in?


Also we are having trouble with him coming up the stairs, He thinks its a game and no matter how many times you tell him to get down he will just come back up.
So the people are UPSTAIRS the puppy is DOWNSTAIRS
Why the seperation?

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