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Old 02-18-2009, 08:54 AM   #1
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Default 15weeks old and mounting /humping already?

So my 15week old little man has been mounting/humping my older female usually around her chest or neck area, and mostly only when they are playing. If they are calm and just laying around I have not seen this. But I think he started to do this to her while she was calmly laying on the bed. So maybe its not jsut in excitement of play.
Is this normal? He is only 15weeks...I know my two 7yr old females will do this to each other to show who the boss is today...typically its Shelby my big black lab, she is bossy one...I tend to stop this behaviour as it sometimes causes them to have a bit of a spat, if Daisy is not feeling like being bothered with Shelby being bossy...
Anyway the Puppy Dexter has started this and I was surprised because he is still quite young, I know this action is not always meant to be sexual but still he is a baby...doesn't seem to bother the big dog (he plays with the bossy one more) but she will tire of it and throw him off or pin him down.

So whats the deal is this normal at this age? My Girls didn't start doing these things until they were older pups 8-9mos(after they were fixed)

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Old 02-18-2009, 09:31 AM   #2
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It's normal. When puppies in a litter are playing, you will often see them do this with each other, even before they are 8 weeks old. It is a sign of dominance. Some puppies grow out of it, and some pups, if they inherited a "dominance" gene will continue with it. For what I do with my dogs, I want a puppy who does this, as it shows a sign of confidence. I also want the female adult dog to allow the pup to do it. Usually if it gets too out of hand the adult will say enough is enough. But, usually the adult who lets the pup do it, knows the pup will eventually grow tired of proving they are the boss, as there is nothing to boss.
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Thanks, I know puppies can do this in play just didn't realize it was so early...I have witnessed litters kind of mounting each other but not the actual humping motion...
I did some temperment testing so to speak (some things a behaviourist showed me a few years ago to gauge a puppy's resposiveness and dominance) He has a very nice mild yet responsive temperment. Where he is very laid back, likes people but pretty calm... yet still playful when asked to play and confident.
He does not get disorderly with the humnas in the house...well he can get a bit with the kids but they just get up say a Stern "NO" and "be a tree"...he realizes he is being too crazy and settles. So this is working out...
He is more confident with our older dogs now, but when they let him know enough he usually settles... altho lately he has to be "told" maybe 2-3 times if he is really excited and rambunctious...
My Yellow Lab does not tolerate him as much, but has her way to get him to stop... she just gets up and leaves the roomwhen she is done playing...but my black lab plays with him for hours and lets him be a bit disorderly, but also lets him know when she has had enough in a calm way...so I guess things are going well... as long as he doesn't think he can be humping people and stranger dogs... I think we are all ok.
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Your accounting made me giggle. It sounds just like what I went through with Artie. We seperated him and his mother at 5 weeks, as he was driving her insane. So his father and his aunt basically raised him from 5 weeks. His father allowed him to do anything he wanted, jump on him, chew his ears, bite his tail, and the only time his father corrected him is when Artie bit his father's man berries. Artie's aunt allowed Artie to be a bit wild, but she played the mother role well, and would pin him down and bathe him from head to toe to get him to calm. At five weeks old, Artie would lie on top of his father's head and hump him. His father would just lie there, look at me as if to say, "can you make him stop?" They had a good skit of Leghorn going on, "son, I say son, stop that!" (might be showing my age here by referencing Leghorn).
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This was typically seen when Artie and his father were playing. I think this picture was taken when Artie was about 8 weeks old.

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That pic is sweet! I love it...My mother in law was at the house on the weekend and the big girl and pup were playing as normal...they are quite noisey, my big girl talks a lot I think its the Rotti in her to vocalize. But sometimes if your not used to it it can sound scary...I have learned to know the difference in the tone and pitch to know when its all fun and games and when someone it going to loose and eye! haha!
Anyway my mother in law freaked hearing them and start yelling that I stop them the big girl is going to kill the puppy...
mean while he was on her head much like your pic! haha!

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Wow, your house sounds a LOT like mine. My dogs are very vocal in play, just like your's. It is fun to watch the reactions of others when mine sound like they are killing each other when in fact it is just good fun. I enjoy watching my dogs play fight. Especially when the older dogs, drop to the ground and let the younger dogs win. We have to keep Artie and Flint out of the whelping room when we have puppies, because they both love to get in the box and let the pups crawl all over them. You are definitely right though, there is that subtle change in tone when you know, as the leader you have to step in before someone loses an eye.
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Perfectly normal for puppies to do this... but if you do not want this behaviour , than you must stop it.. or allow the older dogs to stop him.

What is cute or executable as pups, is not so when they grow..

Just Like any other behaviour you dont want the sooner you correct it the better.
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I let puppies play so long like this. I do not allow this to continue as instruct my customers to stop it before adults. They do I have none doing this as adults. It is not a normal thing to do. I had a Boston Terrier that humped pillows, it became so bad I could not stand him on the couch which I do not allow pet, back then I was busy with horses.

It will happen on people coming to visit if allowed, this is highly embarrassing and it should not continue after puppy hood, do not leave it keep this up from puppy play, it is a bad habit and can be genetic or recessive gene causing it.
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Myka is an on and off again humper, been more off as he's matured. When he gets going his favorite is an old ratty stuffed toy raccoon, he's also fond of his stuffed squirrel. Maddie has put him in his place, he wont try it anymore with her. If he gets going too much we put a stop to it.

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