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Old 02-11-2009, 08:08 AM   #1
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Question Help with 4 month old puppy

A couple of weeks ago i rescued a 4 month old cross staff puppy from a shelter. Hes a lovely natured dog who prefers nothing more than sitting on your lap and licking you as much as possible.

However his nipping is getting harder and a lot more serious and when he is told NO he simply bites down harder and thinks we are simply playing a game with him. He does this when taken out aswell, he runs up to random starngers and jumps at their faces and bites at their clothes and refuses to listen to my commands.

On the park he runs up to every dog he meets and jumps on them and stands on 2 paws over their heads. It nearly got him in trouble the other week with an older male dog who simply did not like his hyper presence. I dont think his jumping presence has got to the stage of humping but other dogs have interpreted his actions as this which worries me as he has been growled at on several occasions. However it all looks like play to me.

Im just worried that i have received him too late to teach him the proper socialisation skills especially as i have a 5yr old male who he has yet to meet as Rocks is staying with my grandmother. Paws is really a lovely boy who thinks everything is a game but has yet to respect me as his owner.

If anyone has any tips as to how to let Paws approach other dogs on the park and how to improve his recall dramatically it would really help. Sorry ive rambled on a bit its just Rocks will be moving up with me soon so i need Paws to be as good as possible.

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Old 02-11-2009, 08:36 AM   #2
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Bless you for taking a pup from a shelter!
I don't think it is too late, but it may be a bit harder than if you had gotten him as a little pup.
First off I think to help his overall willingness to listen to you, I'd use the "NILIF" method.
http://www.dogforum.org/showthread.php?t=15999

The biting and nipping are something you can get under control, and recall can be trained as well. We have info on our FAQ section that should be helpful.

As far as teaching him manners at the park I think I would avoid the park until he minds better and has better recall. Obviously you don't want him jumping on other dogs, but if he won't listen to you and stop, there is a chance that one day a fight will break out over it.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:31 AM   #3
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Thankyou very much to replying to my thread as you can probably tell i am in need of some advice..
I have read through the NILIF method and have come to find that i use a little bit of that method already, in particualr with the puppies food. However i now see that i need to be more consistent.
Recently i have taken to lead walking him as he is simply to distracted to be let off and i hope that with consistensy and praise he will become a happy, balanced dog.
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I have a quick question for you-
At the moment my 5 year old male mongrel is living at my grandmothers and i was wondering how best to approach a meeting between the two as soon enough Rocks will be coming to live with me soon. Their first introduction went well but Paws seemingly mounted Rocks (or thats how rocks interpreted it) and a scuffle broke out?
Any ideas....and i am in no rush to move Rocks as yet as he is perfectly happy at my nanas for now..and i emphasise for now...

If you cant help me any further again i would like to thank you for your advice and i will put into action straight away x x x

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I am in the same boat matey!
I have a 4 month old westie and it is normal for pups to nip and be playful but it shouldn't be encouraged.
If Charlie gets rough I say I firm "No" if he doesn't listen I move away, no eye contact, no touch, no speak, Until he calms down.
He needs to learn that his behaviour is unacceptable and if he cant play nice then he won't play at all.
4 months is still a young age and plenty of time to train him, puppies are playful, it's there nature, hopefuly he will grow out of it and learn not to be so rough.
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Hi Chantelle Yes this can be turned around as Rocks is still young Did you ask the shelter for any history to do with Rocks? It seems as though the previous owners gave up too soon or didn't bother to seek advice, You though have sought advice so that's good!! In your home and in you nan's house he has to learn this is not good behaviour! I would say try squealing or in high pitched voice say ouch!! again if this works then keep it up if it doesn't work then walk away and like others have said no contact whatsoever ignore completely and keep doing this even when you see good results
to help rienforce that you mean it As for the park problems keep
him on a leash for now,

If you have a garden/yard try recall there. I have used a carrot (Which I have used in Nipper's food since a pup) I only just realised about 3 weeks ago after trying everything to get her back I should use a carrot and it works the answer was staring me in the face all this time (12months) So I would introduce carrot in Rock's food for a few weeks then start using the carrot (whole one) as a training aid and when Rock's comes back to you break a bit off get him to sit and give a bit to him. Good luck
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Thankyou ladylitz its nice to know im not alone out there
Bigboy you have also really helped. However it is indeed paws that is the puppy and rocks is my 5yr old...im sorry if i made that unclear =)
i have a huge garden so i will begin the recall training immediately and the puppy is food mad so that shouldnt be too hard to work out...
thankyou all so much for your help.
i will let you know how i get on x

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Thankyou ladylitz its nice to know im not alone out there
Bigboy you have also really helped. However it is indeed paws that is the puppy and rocks is my 5yr old...im sorry if i made that unclear =)
i have a huge garden so i will begin the recall training immediately and the puppy is food mad so that shouldnt be too hard to work out...
thankyou all so much for your help.
i will let you know how i get on x
No Problem Chantelle! it's what we are here for to help newcomers and older members to give answers to their problems and to recieve advice as well
Do come back with any updates or if you need any more advice
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