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kiz · 10-17-2008, 03:50 PM

We've been trying to use a distraction method to stop George biting us (he is 11 weeks old) but now he bites even more when we dont play.

I know he is testing us and trying to dominate within the pack but please can someone advise us what to do because he is starting to nip..... and hard too!!!

**skunkstripe** · 10-17-2008, 04:01 PM

Hi kiz
This has nothing to do with dominance - Geroge just needs to nip and chew and this is their normal way of playing with each other. You might find some help here
http://www.dogforum.org/showthread.php?t=9741
This is one of the hardest things to get them to stop with and sometimes what works for one puppy won't work for another. Whatever you try, stick with it long enough (like at least a week) to see it if helps. Good luck!

sheplovr · 10-17-2008, 04:53 PM

This is something all puppies start to do and we have to work on it so they do not make a habit of it and continue on and on. This link below even has a good video to help you understand and all the helpful info on stopping this.

Quote:

How To Stop A
Puppy From Biting

Learning how to stop a puppy from biting can be a major challenge for us dog lovers. Puppy biting or nipping starts out as a bit of fun, but needs to be stopped quickly to avoid further problems.

For most young puppies biting is a perfectly natural phase to go through, especially when they are teething.
Puppies love to sink their sharp little fangs into just about anything during this teething stage, including the hands and feet of their owners. In some cases it's like you've bought a snappy alligator into your home, instead of the cuddly little puppy you had hoped for.
The good news is that most puppies can be trained to stop biting pretty easily, although the sooner you put a stop to the biting the easier it is.

http://www.dog-obedience-training-re...om-biting.html

Tom Cruise · 10-17-2008, 05:05 PM

people on here will probably claim its cruelty or not condusive to good behaviour.... but THIS WORKS.

If you have a small-medium dog, if he bites your finger, immediately stick your finger down his throat some so he chokes a little bit.

Then present the finger to him again, he won't bite it.

It may seem cruel but the dog doesn't remember about the discomfort a few seconds later and if you're consistent with it, he'll never bite *you* again. Biting *is* perfectly healthy, but only when the dog is doing it on inanimate objects, not people, so yeah thats how we stopped our pup from biting us, and its worked completely

sheplovr · 10-17-2008, 05:13 PM

Hey if it works try it I say. That is not cruel it is worse if you let the puppy go on and it becomes an adult biter.

kiz · 10-17-2008, 05:23 PM

Thanks guys,

I'll start to enforce that biting is not except-able behavior.

What about brief pack separation? After he got really nippy my other half put him in the kitchen, this is where his food and water is and he closed to door for a couple of minutes. When he came back into the lounge we were both very calm and not paying attention. He seemed calm and then the fell asleep on the floor

Tom Cruise · 10-17-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kiz

Thanks guys,

I'll start to enforce that biting is not except-able behavior.

What about brief pack separation? After he got really nippy my other half put him in the kitchen, this is where his food and water is and he closed to door for a couple of minutes. When he came back into the lounge we were both very calm and not paying attention. He seemed calm and then the fell asleep on the floor

well, that might work but dogs really don't associate what they've just done with the punishment for more than a couple of seconds, so unless you're next to the kitchen door when it happens and you can put him straight in that second, it won't help

my advice came from my partner's dad who's had dogs his whole life... and it really does work.

Stantheman · 10-24-2008, 08:23 AM

Stanley (15 week Sprocker) has recently gotten really bad (well, quite good actually) at biting me.
He has taken to jumping up at me and biting my thighs as well as ankles, trousers and coats when we are getting ready for a walk - he also does this when we are a walk.
I am getting quite distressed about it because I don't enjoy being with him at the moment - not how I want to be.
I have tried shaky tins, squirty water, telling him no, picking him up by the scruff but he comes back at me worse every time. I know he is playing because when I eventually get him off he lies on the floor wagging his tail. It has become a real problem for me now.
I have also noticed that he is alot worse when hubby is not home. He is very calm when he is around.
I am considering asking my dog trainer to come round to assess us and give us some help, does anyone think this is the best thing to do?
Also, would he be more bitey/grouchy if he was teething?

Chaz · 10-24-2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stantheman

Stanley (15 week Sprocker) has recently gotten really bad (well, quite good actually) at biting me.
He has taken to jumping up at me and biting my thighs as well as ankles, trousers and coats when we are getting ready for a walk - he also does this when we are a walk.
I am getting quite distressed about it because I don't enjoy being with him at the moment - not how I want to be.
I have tried shaky tins, squirty water, telling him no, picking him up by the scruff but he comes back at me worse every time. I know he is playing because when I eventually get him off he lies on the floor wagging his tail. It has become a real problem for me now.
I have also noticed that he is alot worse when hubby is not home. He is very calm when he is around.
I am considering asking my dog trainer to come round to assess us and give us some help, does anyone think this is the best thing to do?
Also, would he be more bitey/grouchy if he was teething?

Why don't you try squeling when he does this and just walking away, puppies would squel when they are with their mums when one bites the other too hard and that tells the other puppy that it hurts and not to do it that hard anymore, and when you walk away it will teach your pup that when he does this it makes you go away which is a bad thing.

Stantheman · 10-24-2008, 10:05 AM

I have tried screaming and/or yelping but it seems to make him more excited. When I walk away he sees that as an opportunity to bite my ankles/feet/slippers again?! He also jumps and bites me when we are on a walk too, I have taken to standing still in the middle of a field until he stops, then carrying on.
The thing is, he is a really inteligent dog and has learned commands really quickly so I am confused as to why I am not able to stop him biting me. If I could find a solution I am positive he would learn it really quickly but it's making that breakthrough that I am finding so hard.

10-17-2008, 03:50 PM	#1
kiz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rutland, UK Posts: 38 Rep: 10 Unique Rep: 0	Biting help We've been trying to use a distraction method to stop George biting us (he is 11 weeks old) but now he bites even more when we dont play. I know he is testing us and trying to dominate within the pack but please can someone advise us what to do because he is starting to nip..... and hard too!!!

10-17-2008, 04:01 PM	#2
skunkstripe All American Dog Lover Join Date: May 2006 Location: New England USA Posts: 20,995 Blog Entries: 15 Rep: 359 Unique Rep: 142	Hi kiz This has nothing to do with dominance - Geroge just needs to nip and chew and this is their normal way of playing with each other. You might find some help here http://www.dogforum.org/showthread.php?t=9741 This is one of the hardest things to get them to stop with and sometimes what works for one puppy won't work for another. Whatever you try, stick with it long enough (like at least a week) to see it if helps. Good luck! __________________ Help us Help you! Read and understand the Terms of Service, report offensive posts and Forum Reputation. Helpful Tips - in our FAQ Section and Newbie Guide. Connect with DogForum.org members - Add yourself to the dogforum.net member map.chat with us! Things to do - Start a blog. Be sure to visit the DogForum.net photo gallery Let's see YOU! Use your computer to benefit mankind - join the DogForum.org Folding Team. Thanks Fede for the sigpic! I've been fleeced by Draco!

10-17-2008, 05:13 PM	#5
sheplovr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 9,482 Blog Entries: 28 Rep: 230 Unique Rep: 88	Hey if it works try it I say. That is not cruel it is worse if you let the puppy go on and it becomes an adult biter. __________________ "Don't make the mistake of treating your dogs like humans, or they'll treat you like dogs." ~PAT~

10-17-2008, 05:23 PM	#6
kiz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rutland, UK Posts: 38 Rep: 10 Unique Rep: 0	Thanks guys, I'll start to enforce that biting is not except-able behavior. What about brief pack separation? After he got really nippy my other half put him in the kitchen, this is where his food and water is and he closed to door for a couple of minutes. When he came back into the lounge we were both very calm and not paying attention. He seemed calm and then the fell asleep on the floor Last edited by kiz; 10-17-2008 at 05:24 PM.. Reason: typo

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10-17-2008, 05:05 PM	#4
Tom Cruise Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 275 Rep: 14 Unique Rep: 4	people on here will probably claim its cruelty or not condusive to good behaviour.... but THIS WORKS. If you have a small-medium dog, if he bites your finger, immediately stick your finger down his throat some so he chokes a little bit. Then present the finger to him again, he won't bite it. It may seem cruel but the dog doesn't remember about the discomfort a few seconds later and if you're consistent with it, he'll never bite you again. Biting is perfectly healthy, but only when the dog is doing it on inanimate objects, not people, so yeah thats how we stopped our pup from biting us, and its worked completely

10-24-2008, 08:23 AM	#8
Stantheman Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 30 Rep: 10 Unique Rep: 0	Stanley (15 week Sprocker) has recently gotten really bad (well, quite good actually) at biting me. He has taken to jumping up at me and biting my thighs as well as ankles, trousers and coats when we are getting ready for a walk - he also does this when we are a walk. I am getting quite distressed about it because I don't enjoy being with him at the moment - not how I want to be. I have tried shaky tins, squirty water, telling him no, picking him up by the scruff but he comes back at me worse every time. I know he is playing because when I eventually get him off he lies on the floor wagging his tail. It has become a real problem for me now. I have also noticed that he is alot worse when hubby is not home. He is very calm when he is around. I am considering asking my dog trainer to come round to assess us and give us some help, does anyone think this is the best thing to do? Also, would he be more bitey/grouchy if he was teething?

10-24-2008, 10:05 AM	#10
Stantheman Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 30 Rep: 10 Unique Rep: 0	I have tried screaming and/or yelping but it seems to make him more excited. When I walk away he sees that as an opportunity to bite my ankles/feet/slippers again?! He also jumps and bites me when we are on a walk too, I have taken to standing still in the middle of a field until he stops, then carrying on. The thing is, he is a really inteligent dog and has learned commands really quickly so I am confused as to why I am not able to stop him biting me. If I could find a solution I am positive he would learn it really quickly but it's making that breakthrough that I am finding so hard.

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