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Old 07-10-2008, 09:29 AM   #1
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Someone please help.

The little get it driving us up the wall with his nipping the feet. He does it constant and im sick of saying the word no and facing him the other way

When i point my finger at him and say no sometimes it provokes him into an aggressive manner and he becomes very nasty like he means to bite and actually stops playing and turns real

I have had to give him a tap on the hind legs as a warning as he turned really nasty this morning and went for my face in a very aggressive manner.

Im quite shocked at this behaviour from such a young pup, is this normal and is he just trying to be top dog?

Also if we have to leave him alone locked in the kitchen while we do house work he absoloutley screams, barks and howls the house down.

He sounds like he is being murdered god knows what the neighbours are thinking.

Should i continue to leave him holwing and moaning or should i run to his aid, im thinking that by going to him everytime he crys that he will think that i will always be there for him,

Please alittle advice i don't want an aggressive dog or a one that wimpers everytime he is left in a room on his own.

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Old 07-10-2008, 09:36 AM   #2
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Pippa what you are experiencing is the exact problems that everyone on here told you would happen with a 6 week old puppy taken from its mother. This is why Bratboxer suggested returning him for a couple of weeks, what Monkey warned you of, and many others unfortunately.

This is when his litter brothers and sisters, and mum, would be teaching him bite inhibition. That is what he's missing out on and you have to provide it.

He is a baby, you can't get frustrated with him or he will sense it, tapping his legs won't do much i'm afraid. Remaining calm is vital.

ALL puppies bite, they test the boundaries and then it progresses to chewing when they are teething. Puppies are not all cuteness and cuddles, they are little monsters!

When molly was a puppy, I was covered in scratches and bites which hurt a lot. At one point she bit my hand so hard that I picked her up with her teeth in my flesh. I had an inch long scar for 2 years. I was consistent with my responses, playtime stopped when she bit and I 'squealed' to let her know I was upset. It took her a while but eventually it calmed down and now she is an angel.


Consistency is vital, you can't give up on one method just because results aren't instant or he'll never learn. Remember, you have an animal, not a teddy bear.
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:44 AM   #3
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I know your right but its so fustrating.

I know we made a big mistake by taking him at 6 1/2 weeks instead of 8 but we cannot change that now.

We have tried to squeel but he does not stop the biting, we have tried using a low tone of voice and saying NO. We have to pick him up and turn him the other way to stop him, he then turns round and carries on.

What is the best method?

Also with the leaving him in a room is it best to ignor his crys??

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I'm assuming 'the little git' is Alfie - do you actually call him ever by his name?

The dog is misbehaving because he was too young to be taken away from his mother and his siblings, but you knew best then, so why are you asking for help now? All this, so you could have a dog with a docked tail or bob tail or non-tail - and insisted on getting a dog from a breeder who wasn't reputable. All these behavioural issues are a direct consequence of getting your dog from a breeder who isn't reputable.

You've got a dog which may have a retained testicle; has ear mites and you were advised by forum members to contact the breeder.

You are going to have a real problem on your hands and possibly an aggressive dog. It is my belief that your dog will probably end up in a shelter because you give up on it and I hope I'm wrong. You can console yourself when you are taking it to Dogs Trust to be rehomed that someone will take it who can train it. Worse case scenario is that you'll have Alfie PTS because you'll say he's aggressive.

Carole holds her head in her hands and sighs. I don't want to say I told you so - but I told you so.

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Pippa I understand you're frustrated, perhaps you understand now why everyone was so upset that you had such a young puppy.

You haven't had him long, you can't expect instant results. Like I said, you need to remain consistent. The method of squealing does work, but it may take a lot of times before he gets the message. This means doing it every single time he bites human flesh, not trying a different technique each time. Choose one, stick at it. He's a puppy so can't work out what you want unless you keep it consistent.

Don't get frustrated either, I know how hard it is, but having a puppy is hard, hard work...which is why so many people end up chucking them into shelters when the 'cute' wears off.

As for the crying, why is he being shut away? When? Using shutting him away as a punishment could cause further problems later on... He needs to learn to see 'alone time' as a time for sleep and relaxation. Putting him away in the height of a playing frenzy at his age frustrates him

Have you thought of getting a baby gate? Then he can be kept in another room but still see you, which might help calm him down.

Puppies his age aren't meant to be left on their own a lot, he should still be surrounded by his family.
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well, there is one correction you can use if he is REALLY tough, I had to on Missy cause she was lacking the same I did that WITH squeeling so now I can squeel and she quits and she has gone down to playing in more gentle manner and listening to no. I have had tot ake it through three faces...

water squirter, a cold spray of water should help, unless the dog is so poorly breed that it has severly temperamental issues which I doubt.

the other teqniches exectued Right should help too..

maybe time to take in a private trainer?? that can actually SHOW you...
apperently something of what we are saying isnt going through..
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We got him from a reputable breeder that was on champ dogs

We made the mistake of getting too young but that was due to being uneducated we are not all dog boffs like you.

We are not going to give up on him or put him in a shelter.

If you have any further coments pm me and i will happily give you my phone number or address come and see me face to face as i think matters would be alot different!!

Melamaphine thanks for your advice.

We do have him behind a baby gate that is were he crys in the kitchen.

The vet told us thats its ok to leave him for 2 or 3 hours at a time, we do have lives to live at the end of the day he is a dog and dogs get left alone

The vet said that it will be better for him to be left alone now rather than being older and finding a sudden change.

We only left him for 10 minutes while we did some house work

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All puppies nip, even those that are released at older than 8 weeks. This is one of the more frustrating things about puppy ownership in my opinion. It rarely has anything to do with aggression or trying to be "top dog." This is the equivalent of a baby in diapers - babies grab everything and stick it into their mouths. Puppies can only grab with their teeth.
I posted links in your "General Puppy Problems" thread, perhaps you could find the time to read them.
http://www.dogforum.org/showpost.php...3&postcount=13
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Will try the water gun out but like i said he is a real tough cookie.

I have only just seen this side to him,

We are going to take him to puppy training classes as soon as he is allowed

Thanks for all the positive comments

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Thanks skunkstripe just wanted to check that it was all normal behaviour

I don't want a nasty dog

How can we soften him up a bit.

Did try the old peanut butter trick on the cheek earlier and he wouldn't stop licking me after so could be a good start.

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