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Old 06-13-2008, 06:52 AM   #1
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Default Toilet training. Pearls of wisdom anyone?

My first post on this forum was for advice with regard to a blind puppy I was taking on, from the same litter as the puppy I had already booked. I was naturally worried and everyone came up with some great advice and tips for me, so thank you.

I am now relying on that again.

I have had puppies before, toilet trained them without a problem but I am struggling a little on this one. You may all think its Obi, the blind pup but I have to say, he is the cleanest puppy I have ever known. Negotiates the house perfectly up and down steps to get in and out of the house and always does his business outside. Only exception is through the night when we put training pads down and even then, he is 100% on target 100% of the time.

The trouble is actually Rubus. I know its early days but he still continues to do it where he stands and will only do it outside if he happens to be out there anyway. Forget the pads, they are no good either where he is concerned.

I know each dog is different but if Obi can do it with all his challenges, there is little excuse.

When both dogs tinkle or poop outside, I go nuts and praise them, rolling around on the floor (not in the wee tho) and give them a treat etc. They love it.

It is difficult to know how to correct Rubus when he does it inside the house as if I shout, Obi (who obviously relies on his hearing and can't tell who it is aimed at) gets anxious and worried.

My 'old fashioned victorian-esque stare' doesn't have the slightest effect on Rubus so I just wondered if anyone had any suggestions at all?

I am not at the end of my tether or frantic about it, but would be keen to nip it in the bud as early as possible. This aside, its only a matter of time before my lovely peach lounge carpet resembles a monochrome Twister board (with the circles of pee)

Thanks in advance guys.

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P.S. I have already tried a water pistol but Rubus must have been born with webbed feet and loves to catch the jet of water as it squirts.

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Old 06-13-2008, 07:00 AM   #2
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hahaha sorry that's funny...
and I know it's not good to use the name either..

MAYBE you can give Rubus a name for bad situations, I know your Obi will be worried in the beginning, but once he learns that the bad names never has any ba dhappens with him I think he will get over it. Just dont make a fuss about it. and some dogs just take time to housebreak, Rubus might be one of them.. but it is a tad ironic that the blind one is doing the better job
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I love the irony in that too! :O)

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If you see him peeing in the house, that is too late to do anything about it. Any type of correction, shouting, water pistol, etc, will only make him think that it is a bad idea for you to catch him peeing. This is how sneaky dogs are made-they become the dogs who pee behind the couch or when you leave the room so as to avoid the punishment. Of course if Rubus considers the water pistol a reward for peeing inside then that deferats the purpose entirely.

If you can keep an eye on him at all times, watch for that "special" way they have of sniffing the ground. The split second you see it, get him outside.

Keep in mind Rubus may have an excuse - sometimes dogs have urinary tract infections so they will mess through no fault of their own. Also he may just be slower than others in catching on. How old is Rubus again and how did you get him? Sorry I forget sometimes.
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We simply had first pick of Rubus out of the litter and two days before we were due to pick him up, learned of the blind pup and agreed to take him on too.

They are only 9 weeks old so perhaps Obi is just particulary good and my expectations of Rubus are a little too high at this age. I don't think they were toilet trained at all before they left the breeder.

We'll get there and like I say, I am not frantic about it.

Thanks for your advice.

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For now I would just pick him up and put him outside every time, even mid pee. You might get peed on but sometimes they stop when you pick them up But yeah, he is still very little so maybe his bladder control just isn't as good as his brother's!

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9 weeks? I don't think you can expect too much as they don't really have any bladder control. It sounds more like Obi is a little angel.
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Personally inside I would keep a leash on him, keep in one room like kitchen when your cooking, if you see him sniffing, circles, take him by leash, exit same door to same area to pee. Pet an praise.

Some dogs are just plain hard to potty train and do things for attention also. I would just take him out often and lift water bowel at six pm, no more till next day, take out late as possible, keep at it and be persistant in training and positive, he will learn....
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Are you crate training them? Tilba still goes sometimes in the house, by the back door, if I don't take her out after being in for a long time & she's nearly 5 mths. She sleeps in a crate & never had an accident in there. My son's 7.75 y/o dog Sooty was trained by 10 weeks, so this is a challenge for me.
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