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Old 08-16-2006, 07:14 AM   #11
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Well this was after he was 'pretty good' with "come". By which I mena he understood it, but sometimes decided that he did not have to come just yet.

The trick is when you are teaching him to set him up so that he ALWAYS comes when you say come. So how do you do that?

a) You happen to say 'come' when he is coming anyway. Don't laugh, it is a sneaky way of getting him to associate the word with the action.

b) You say 'come' and use some other motivator to get him to want to come to you so badly that he does it of his own free will. This could be a treat, or in the case of the hide-and-seek game, the fun and reward of finding you.

c) You can force him. This is the leash method where you have him on a leash and when you say 'come' you tug him towards you. I am not a big fan of this one.

Honestly he way I did it with Zircie was to first get him to master "sit". I used a hand signal at the same time, pointing my finger down. After that I would get him to 'stay' (hold up the flat of my hand) and back away just until he could not stand to 'stay' any longer. At the beginning this was not very far, maybe 5 ft? Then I would say 'come' since he was doing that anyway and either give him a treat or act like he had just won the Nobel prize. I would practice this for about 10 -15 minutes three times a day. Always finish off with something he does well so he does not get frustrated. Training sessions should be fun so doggy looks forward to them.
I gradually increased the distance I could back away until I could be out of sight, in the next room, downstairs. And to him when I finally said "come" it was a relief.

The only hard part was later separating out the three commands because he got used the order 'sit-stay-come'. So I would have to say 'sit' and then do something else, like 'rollover'.

Anyway, that is my I think I had a blast doing it because I am an ex-professor, and Zircon was a lot more motivated to learn than most of the human students I had.
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Old 08-16-2006, 04:06 PM   #12
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Ebaydan777 - initally you should only use the word 'come' when you are really sure that your dog will come fist time of asking (eg when there is nothing more interesting happening, or when calling him for dinner or tasty treat) as he shouldn't be given the opportunity to fail or that is what he would learn. If you are unsure that he will obey either don't use the 'come' word until it is more established (go and collect him instead) or have him on a long line so that you can enforce the come if necessary.

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Wow - guess we were posting at the same time!

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Well this is a sore point between me and my husband. The way it usually works is this:

How I get the dog to come and how hubby gets the dog to come.

I say "COME" in my deepest voice. Sophia comes running, Zircon looks up. I say "COME" again (mistake on my part actually, you are not supposed to repeat the command). But Zircon comes.

Husband says "Zircon, c'm here. C'mon, boy. <tweet tweet> (husband is whistling). Come. <tweet> $%^%$ dog, would you Come ON ALREADY!!!"

Meanwhile I am watching this with steam coming out of my ears and finally I say (for the 100th time) to hubby, "Can you get in the habit of just saying "COME"? The dog doesn't speak English?" To which hubby replies, "What do you mean? He understands me just fine! He came, didn't he?"
My husband does the same thing! I respond with"dogs don't speak English, they only associate a word with a behavior" He will reply"Oh, they know what I'm saying, they're just stubborn" I think he does it to test me.
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Old 08-16-2006, 07:40 PM   #15
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haha ok well let me list to you what Harley can do with no problem, i can put about 5+ peices of doggy treats that he LOVES all around him and say LEAVE IT, and he will not touch the darn things until i say TAKE IT, and then hes so happy, he can sit and lay down perfectly but just hearing the words, he can wait at the door when i say WAIT before we go out and at the gate before the outside world, he can stay when i say STAY and i can be anywhere in his vision and he will stay, but as soon as he doesnt see me hell take off looking for me thats one no-no, and the other thing when he gets out that gate he is Mr. Explorer and will not come unless i get him (usually involves chasing him) or bringing out treats, i say come and he just looks at me, (probably laughs at me) and keeps doin his own thing, then when i go after him he thinks its a funny little game and chases me around (of course french bulldogs are built tough they are not that fast lol)...everyone tells me its cause hes only 4 months old and hell be ok if i keep at least trying my tactics at him when he gets a couple months older, but i hope its true!

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He sounds very cute - where are the photos?

How about bring out the treats and rattle them, then when he is already on his way say 'Harley come', and reward him when he gets to you.

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ya i do that already but hes just so stubborn sometimes when hes paying attention to his dandelions or some plants lol idk hes weird..heres some pics:




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Oh my goodness, he is adorable

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Yes he is a cutie.

"then when i go after him he thinks its a funny little game and chases me around"

Chasing dogs never works. As you have correctly recognized, they think it is a game. if you want your dog to come to you, run AWAY from him. YOu will ba amazed how fast he runs TO you. You said he cannot stand to have you out of your sight? Say "come" and run away, preferably someplace where he cannot see you. His attachment to you will be the motivator. Trust me on this I am so glad I know how to get a dog to come to me. I could tell ya about the time there was this puppy running across four lanes of traffic near strip malls on my way to work and how I got him, but I do not want to hijack your thread. So please, don't chase your dog unless you are playing 'chase' with him (which of course he will appreciate greatly )
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no you have helped a lot actually, harley loves it when i run away from him and he comes after me, i tried the "locking him out" trick, i closed that gate and ran right inside for a good minute or so, he was standing at the gate like "omg u left me" haha and i let him inside after i said come and he came in perfectly all the way into the living room sat down and just looked at me lol

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