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Old 03-22-2006, 06:36 PM   #1
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Hi,
I couldn't find a good topic to put this under so Puppies looks like it.
I have a 2 1/2 yr old yellow lab. Im looking to find stud service for her around the october time frame. She is not AKC papered, but is full bred. Would like Chocolate or yellow stud. Price can be for dollar amount or pick of the litter. If they are full bred, but not papered( puppies) they usually sell for 100-150 each. Please reply to post or send me an email.
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Old 03-24-2006, 06:56 PM   #2
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Do you have health clearances on your bitch? OFA? PRA? Titles? What does your bitch have that would improve the labrador breed? Why do you want to breed an unregistered bitch? The shelters are overrun with labradors...why contribute to the BYB problem ?

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I would say this isnt the best place to look for one. This is a dog forum where most people are very against backyard breeders and people of the such who are not responsible breeders. One of the first steps of being a responsible breeder is your dog being registered AND having all the health tests, etc.

Please do not breed her. I am not trying to offend you. I just want to make sure you are educated before hand. There are tons of labs in shelters.

May I ask your reason for wanting to breed her?

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I can only endorse what has been said. Anybody contemplating breeding, should first of all have all the relevant health checks done. In this breed y they do get bad hip and joint problems. I know of somebody here in the UK who's lab pup cost him 5000 to have joint problems corrected Why the need to mate her? surely there are many of this breed in shelters already, if you were contemplating getting her a playmate.
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What everyone else said, plus, please go to this site and do the exercise before contemplating breeding any further.

http://www.geocities.com/virtualbreeding/vb1.html

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Well, first of all, She has got a really good disposition, is very very intelligent, and I have 4 people who would like to have one of her pups. Her parents didn't have papers so that is why she doesn't have papers. I would like to breed her once before I get her fixed. Im not looking to become a breeder or anything like that. I would also like to have one of her pups. I just would like the pups to be full bred and not mixed. We love the Lab traits and dont think that mixing breeds is a good idea. so sue me for wanting to breed my dog one time.

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Labs litters are usually larger than 4 pups, what are you going to do with the rest of them? The 4 homes you already have lined up could give homes to some of the millions of labs that are in shelters on death row. Yes, even purebred labs are very common in shelters.

An estimated 7,000,000 animals per year are euthed. Let's say half are dogs. That's 3,500,000 dogs per year. That's 9589 per day. That's 400 dogs per hour,

7 dogs per minute? Is that right??
7 DOGS ARE EUTHANIZED EVERY MINUTE?

That is one dog killed every 9 seconds!

Echoing ChessieLvr "Do you have health clearances on your bitch? OFA? PRA? Titles?"

Do you know that your bitches lines are free from genetic problems, that her hips, elbows, and eyes are good? Here is a list of common health problems in the breed, which reputable breeders are breeding away from. http://www.dogbiz.com/dogs-grp1/ret-...th-issues.html

Do you have a minimum of $2,000 set aside for complications, or in the event your bitch needs a c-section? Are you able to take several weeks off work in the event your puppies need to be hand-reared? Are your emotionally prepared for the death of your girl and one or more pups during the labor?

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It is unfortunate that you do not understand that there is a reason your dog and your dog's parents had no papers. They should have never been bred either! If you are not breeding to improve the breed you claim to love then you are doing a disservice to all Lab's.
Be it one litter or twenty of unproven, or at the very least health tested dogs will put you in the catagory of a backyard breeder.
I do not wish to come across as mean spirited but there are plenty of Lab rescues with dogs that need good homes already so please rethink this and do not add to the ever increasing problem.

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In all honesty, I disagree with breeding your dog if it has no papers, and has not been proven in the ring or in the field with titles, and also if it has not been properly health tested for genetic problems. I disagree because I care, and because I am aware of how many dogs die in shelters each year.

Also, to be honest again, no reputable breeder with papered, proven dogs would go out and stud their dogs out to unpapered dogs who have not been proven or tested. Any breeder that would is not reputable. >-.-<

I'm getting a Fluffy-coated corgi that two champion dogs threw in a litter, and he's beautiful, and he's going to be very smart, sweet, and well-trained (when I'm done with him), but that does not make it okay for me to go find a female corgi to breed my severely-faulted, pet-quality dog...

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I really understand all of your concerns and I appreciate your advice. It is none of your business unless you are offering the stud service, how much money I have in my bank account, or how much time I can take off of work. I am a pretty intelligent person and yes, I believe that dogs should have the best of health care. I don't appreciate some of the comments posted attacking my character when none of you know me, my dog or my family. thats fine if you want to post advice. However, don't treat someone you don't know like they are unintelligent. There may or may not be issues that I or the people wanting her pups have with rescues. Everyone has a choice. I've had 6 rescues over my life and this is the first one I got as a puppy.
As long as she has good health checks, I see no problem breeding without papers. Thats all they are is papers.
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