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Old 01-30-2008, 05:12 AM   #1
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My new pup arrives on sunday (actually were doing a 10 hour round trip to bring her home).
I have read as much as I can on the breed but, all the chapters on training concentrate on house training and only say that you can go to puppy classes for the rest ? I have never had a puppy before as all my dog's have been adult when they came to me so i havent a clue how to leand train and teach commands.

What I want to know is when is the puppy old enough for these classes ?

And is there much of a difference between normal and ringcraft classes?

Any help greatfully recived.

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Old 01-30-2008, 05:29 AM   #2
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They can do puppy classes from age 8 weeks --- 14 weeks then you can do obiedence lessons! When you get him you will have to take him to the vet to get his shots before you can do puppy lessons but they dont do them all at once! Congrats on the pup!


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Old 01-30-2008, 06:24 AM   #3
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Thanks, she wont have had her first set of injections when we get her as shes coming so far.
The breeder said both sets must have the same injection code so our vet is handeling them both, so i'll wait till shes fully done then sign her up.
Im excited as it's all new to me, my previous and current dogs were and are all 4yrs and above so im loving all the new puppy information Im learning.

Im going to be snap happy when she gets here so i'll post lots of pic's soon

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I am happy your getting a new puppy this might help you some read it all?
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What food

Choose a dry food intended specifically for puppies, avoiding generic foods and those that sell for unusually low prices. We suggest brand name puppy food because it is impossible to distinguish good dog food from poor dog food simply by looking at the ingredient list on the label. Many things that owners look for, such as high protein levels and extra vitamins, are as likely to be harmful than helpful. For example, overfeeding and over supplementation are factors contributing to hip dysplasia. If you have a large-breed puppy, purchase "large breed" puppy food. The actual formula is different, not just the the kibble size, and is better for very rapidly growing puppies.
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Offer food to young puppies three times a day. If your puppy isn't hungry that often, reduce the frequency. After ten or twelve weeks of age, feed twice a day. Even adult dogs should have their food split into morning and evening feedings. When fed once a day dogs become overly hungry and are more likely to overeat at mealtime.
Let your puppy eat as much as she wants in fifteen minutes and then pick up the food dish. Having food continually available encourages overeating, and chubby puppies are more likely to have hip dysplasia and weight problems later in life. Also, because free-fed puppies never get very hungry, they don't enjoy their food unless given special treats. The combination of special treats and freely available food encourages them to become bored, overweight and picky.
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Care of Charm, I think as far as health goes, the pup should be at least three months old so as not to catch anything from the other dogs.
But as far as learning goes, you can start teaching at home as soon as your pup has settled in. There's no reason not to teach the basic commands like sit, stay, come yourself. As a matter of fact, it can be a lot of fun!
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Thanks, she wont have had her first set of injections when we get her as shes coming so far.
The breeder said both sets must have the same injection code so our vet is handeling them both, so i'll wait till shes fully done then sign her up.
Im excited as it's all new to me, my previous and current dogs were and are all 4yrs and above so im loving all the new puppy information Im learning.

Im going to be snap happy when she gets here so i'll post lots of pic's soon

Good advice above. The most important training begins the moment you bring a puppy home. Consistency and supervision are the key to raising any well behaved puppy. There are several good threads in the FAQ section that will provide help for you.

I'm curious about your comment that the pup won't have had any vaccinations and that the injection code must be the same. Have you discussed this with your own vet? If you did, what did he have to say about the advisability of a puppy going to a new home without having had any vaccinations? In the states this would be very unusual.
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As regards toilet training I would start this when you drive into your driveway after picking up your puppy from the breeder .Put the puppy down in your garden in in a place you want the puppy to relieve itself, and stay with the puppy till it does and when it does then lots of praise, and only then would I take the puppy indoors. After a sleep take out immediately,also keep a careful watch on puppies eating and drinking habits. They have such small bladers at this time that cannot hold it in for long periods, so take or let the puppy out into the garden at very regular intervals to prevent accidents.

As regards puppy classes, you get three types one the puppy party usually by your vet practice and then their is ringcraft which is primarily for dogs who will be shown and thirdly obedience classes. The puppy needs to have had all its jabs before you take it to these classes so dependent on what age it has had it's 2nd jab then wait for at least 10 days before taking it to the classes.

Good luck with your new puppy they are a lot of work but patience is the key and you will get back a lot more than you give.
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I start my puppies in puppy classes before they have their three rounds of shots. Yes, this poses a bit of a risk, but the early sociazation is so deeply important. When teaching puppy classes, i have never had (or heard of) a puppy who has had their first round of shots get sick through puppy class.

However, it is true that a tiny risk is present, and if you wait until the third round of shots, your risk is gone. I, personally, chose the importance of socialization over the tiny risk. But, my dogs are also being trained to take heavy stress in the agility show ring.

As far as ringcraft vs. puppy class, I wouldn't be considering ringcraft until my dog was an adult...and then only after an intense temperment test and only if I were a really, really strong trainer. This type of training is very on-edge and should only be done by the best of trainers.

Stick to puppy class and regular obedience classes. If, down the road, you and a professional trainer decide you and your dog are candidates for ringcraft, then you can do that then.
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I start my puppies in puppy classes before they have their three rounds of shots. Yes, this poses a bit of a risk, but the early sociazation is so deeply important. When teaching puppy classes, i have never had (or heard of) a puppy who has had their first round of shots get sick through puppy class.

However, it is true that a tiny risk is present, and if you wait until the third round of shots, your risk is gone. I, personally, chose the importance of socialization over the tiny risk. But, my dogs are also being trained to take heavy stress in the agility show ring.

As far as ringcraft vs. puppy class, I wouldn't be considering ringcraft until my dog was an adult...and then only after an intense temperment test and only if I were a really, really strong trainer. This type of training is very on-edge and should only be done by the best of trainers.

Stick to puppy class and regular obedience classes. If, down the road, you and a professional trainer decide you and your dog are candidates for ringcraft, then you can do that then.

As the original poster is in the Uk I just want to point out that here no training class would allow you to take your puppy before they have the two sets of jabs, (only two in the UK and not three).

Also Ringcraft here seems to be so different from in the states and you take puppies from as young as 10 weeks provided jabs are in place as I previously posted. This is for training for the show ring only and it is the owner who decides when and if to attend and professional trainers to not enter into the equasion.

The obedience and agility are a different kettle of fish and I am not really up on what age a puppy shouldbe to attend these in the Uk but would think that the younger the better even if just for extra socialisation.


I am only posting this in reply to you Agility K9 as the original poster may be confused by what happens and is normal practice on the other side of the pond and what is normal practice in the UK.
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That's good, Borzoi mad. I don't want to cause confusion. I thought the OP was referring to ringsport which is a protection dog competition sport. If she's refering to conformation, then by all means she can decide for herself and also a pup can begin to learn that at a young age.
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