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Old 01-19-2008, 12:42 AM   #1
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Smile A couple puppy questions...

hey everyone, i just got a chihuahua puppy about a week ago and she is 5 months old. i have some questions... first does anybody have any potty training advice? i have to use the potty pads because i live in an apartment on the fourth floor. im constantly wathing her and when i see her start to do her "potty dance" i take her right to the pad but she walks right off of it and pees on the carpet. i even try and hold her there until she goes but she just wont go on the pad. so frustrating! ha so any advice? and also...she is the biggest cry baby EVER! if i leave her side she will cry and if i put her in her crate she cries (and im talking ear piercing cries where it hurts my ears) i didnt know something so loud could come out of a little 2 pound dog. i ignore her but still no luck. one more...she is so dependent on me! how do i get her to be a little more independent? she literally growls at everyone but me. help. thanks everyone

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Old 01-19-2008, 12:54 AM   #2
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Hello there! I just quoted this not to long ago, but I can quote it again for you. I know it sounds like you are trying to paper train- but throughout this dogs life with you- do you still want it to pee on papers on the floor? Aciddents can happen such as your pay check falling off of the table, and your dog will end up peeing on it. I would say if you want your dog honestly house trained- start doing your best to bring her outside for potty breaks (Being on the fourth floor of an apartment building and buying a puppy is -not- the best idea when it comes to training. Hope you knew what you were getting yourself in to!)

I have an 11 week old Rottweiler puppy, and this is the experience-gained knowledge I have on potty training a pup:


I got this quote from a post I made on THIS thread.
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Firstly, we made it so that the pup could not have access to the entire house. Even though we have a small house, keeping him confined to just the Kitchen (You may chose a different room. Best idea is to chose a room with no carpet. Use things to block the doorways and entrances/exits, and make sure she is only ever allowed in the one room you choose, unless under constant supervision. Place the crate in the chosen room as well, and leave the door open for all-time access. Place water in that area as well. Only feed at a specific time, do not free feed (It will help you know when she has to potty).

Make sure the crate is not too big. The most common mistakes that people make with pups when they begin crate training is that they get a crate too big because they want the puppy to be comfortable. The crate is not supposed to their room- it is supposed to be their bed. So downsize it by filling one end of it with something, or blocking off one end of it. We used a metal divider from a different crate we have, and held it in place with zip-ties. The puppy should ONLY be able to enter, lay down, turn around and sit. When the pup is laying down, their body should take up 90% of the floor space.)

Now, as for bed time poo and pee in the crate. Once it is downsized, we still had the issue that our pup could not make it through the entire night. We only sleep for 6 hours a night (Go to bed at midnight and get up at 6am) and even then we would wake up with pee and sometimes poo as well in there with him and he would need a bath and the crate would need to be cleaned. (Find a cleaner that doesn't use ammonia as it may attract the pup to pottying in that spot again. Use a clean that breaks down enzymes.)

So, this little bit of info will help you a lot: Pups age in months, plus one = how many hours they can be expected to hold it. So, your pup being about 3 months old, that means your Lilly should not be expected to hold it for any longer than 4 hours. This means that you will have to get up in the middle of the night at least once (Depending on how many hours you sleep) to ensure there are no accidents.

Here is another good thing to remember:

When to take her outside for a potty break:
-Once every hour and a half to be careful
-After the pup naps
-After eating (This means hurry!)
-Before and after being put in the crate for a period of time
-Shortly after a long drink of water
-After a long play session/exercise time.


I know it sounds like a lot, and I didn't realize how often it would have to be until we already had the pup. I had a few minutes of regret, but then I realize that this is what I signed up for, and I owe it to the pup to make sure he gets taken care of properly.

I do believe it would be a good idea for you to write up a schedule like I had said before. Print off a few copies, and make sure to keep up with it as it will help you understand when she needs to potty and what exactly she needs to do on this specific potty break. I use the straight up and down "|" line for pee, and I use an "O" for poo when I am writing it down. If the potty was an accident and not during a potty break where you took her outside, I put a line through it to show that it was not a good potty break. And, quite frankly, my pup (only three weeks younger than your own) pees once an hour (Unless he has napped through that hour) and poos an average of 4-5 times a day.

I also take away the water dish a few hours before bed, that way their bladder wont be full in the middle of the night. This has helped a LOT.

Here is what my schedule looks like. I keep it up on the wall by the door with a pen near by:




For night time potty breaks when you get up from sleeping to let her out that one time a night, mark it down on the bottom of the sheet of paper with the exact time and what she did as well. That way you dont forget in the morning and go " When was the last time she pooped?!?!" Lol.

So... To Recap:
-Keep a schedule of when the pup goes potty.
-Take out at least every hour and a half.
-Feed a measured amount at specific times of the day.
-Bring outside on a leash and give a LOT of praise and a treat when a good deed has been done.
-Do not give the pup complete access to your entire house- keep the area smaller and easier to be watched over.
-Never punish the puppy for a potty mistake in the house, as this sends mixed signals, and they will become sneaky about pottying and you will find it hidden throughout your house.
-Keep the crate size small.
-Place accidental poos in the 'correct place' to fill that area with their scent to help to have them potty in the right place.
-Take pup outside if she whines at all, she will start to understand what whining means going outside to potty.
-Get up at least ONCE a night to stop night-time accidents
- Take a nap whenever possible to catch up on sleep, LOL!

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Old 01-19-2008, 01:02 AM   #3
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Great advice by Mojo but if you are set on using the pads I figured that I should add in there is a sort of spray that you can buy at pet stores that gives the pad that "scent" I have never personally used it or pads for that matter but just thought I would offer that advice as well! Oh and NEVER NEVER NEVER force them on the pad i. e. holding him down on it. All that is going to accomplish is fear of the pad itself therefore the pup associating it with bad things.

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I might also add that you should increase the area covered by the pads. Lay down two or three pads so your puppy has a larger area to choose from. While I agree with Julia73 about not holding the pup on the pad, I would recommend using a leash to keep the pup on the appropriate area, or try a pen arrangement to keep the pup directly on the pads until he does his business.

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I might also add that you should increase the area covered by the pads. Lay down two or three pads so your puppy has a larger area to choose from. While I agree with Julia73 about not holding the pup on the pad, I would recommend using a leash to keep the pup on the appropriate area, or try a pen arrangement to keep the pup directly on the pads until he does his business.
Well said! I allways seem to forgett a few things lol!

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Old 01-19-2008, 01:35 AM   #6
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thanks everyone! great advice

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Old 01-19-2008, 05:24 AM   #7
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Great advice on the wee wee problems. As for the crying when she wants her own way, you need to start how you mean to carry on. I know they are cute, and you want to keep her happy, but if you carry on giving in to her now, she will be calling the shots for many years to come. You need to make sure all her needs are met. Then if you need to leave her, make sure she knows you are coming back. Start with small amounts of time and build up. This will be very hard to start off with, as she must be being quiet when you walk back in, otherwise she will think its her crying that brought you back. If you know what I mean.

I will leave it there, as I am sure there are people with much more experience on here than me. Molly was a rescue at around 12 months we think. So most of the work had been done for us.

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Hi Jenny and welcome to the forum!
Great advice so far on both the peeing and the crying.
I can only think of two things to add on the peeing. One is that sometimes dogs get hooked on a type of surface. Some like concrete, some like vinyl floor, and some like carpet. Sometimes people have better luck with litter boxes than with pee pads because of the "feel."
Also I can see where being four floors up you can't rush down and make it in time when your doggy needs to go. I wouldn't quite give up on getting her to do her thing outside. If you want to do that though you have to anticipate when she needs to go. Like Mojo suggested, a schedule is good, at five months I would think that first thing in the morning, twice during the day and once just before bedtime would be enough to give her the chance before she starts doing the pee dance.
Good luck!
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