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Old 11-16-2007, 12:58 PM   #1
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Default Lhasa apso puppy hernia problem

Hi, first post on this forum today and im after some urgent advice
we paid a deposit last week for a lhasa apso puppy which is 4 weeks old, today i have recived a call from the breeder to tell me that last night one pup took ill and unfortunatley died. the breeder has had the pups to the vets today and the others are fine apart from the male pup which i have bought.it has a small umbilical hernia which she says can heel itself by 12 weeks and if it dosent will require surgery at 6 months for which she will pay for herself should it require.
im now in a delema, we all love the pup even after only seeing it once but we dont want a poorly puppy if you know what i mean.
we have the option of a refund on the deposit or wait and see if it heals or the paid for operation
does anyone have any advice or has come across this problem themselves?

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Old 11-16-2007, 01:03 PM   #2
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Hello and a Nice Welcome to the Dog Forum.
I have had those in pups and they most all leave on their own. Or, when spayed or neuterd they go on up and snip them. They are popped out, not in so no harm, dogs can lead normal lives with them. This is mostly genetic if one died. Do you know the cause of death? If has anything genetic then ask for your money back and move on. Just a note from me a breeder for many years, do not take chances if a litter is having problems. Other than that if the puppy checked out ok, call the vet and discuss with him/her about this as we are not vets here. Best to do that before dropping out so u understand or just get a refund if one died do to genetics. Most die during birht or right after, if they live a couple days and die it is mostly because of no pallet to suckle milk and starve. Let me know please.
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when I purchased my Shih Tzu female she had a small umbiblical hernia as well and although it wasn't a huge problem it didn't heal and now requires a surgery that will cost $200, if you are really interested in the puppy I would purchase it but maybe let the breeder knwo you would like them to pay half the surgical cost if need be.
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Hello and a Nice Welcome to the Dog Forum.
I have had those in pups and they most all leave on their own. Or, when spayed or neuterd they go on up and snip them. They are popped out, not in so no harm, dogs can lead normal lives with them. This is mostly genetic if one died. Do you know the cause of death? If has anything genetic then ask for your money back and move on. Just a note from me a breeder for many years, do not take chances if a litter is having problems. Other than that if the puppy checked out ok, call the vet and discuss with him/her about this as we are not vets here. Best to do that before dropping out so u understand or just get a refund if one died do to genetics. Most die during birht or right after, if they live a couple days and die it is mostly because of no pallet to suckle milk and starve. Let me know please.
Great post Shep, I never even thought to ask about the dead pup and what had happened to it
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i will call her tonight and find out what the pup died of, as for asking her to pay half the bill if it needs surgery , she has offered to pay the whole bill which i wont imagine will be cheap !
what about asking for a discount from the price of the pup to cover the cost of surgery later i wonder?

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HIYA

A friend of mine has a springer that had an unbilical hernia that never got better on its own, so when he was done at six months the hernia was done to. He is now 2 and every thing is fine he is one of the livlest dogs i know, so i wouldnt worry to much about that i would b more concerned about what the other pup died off. Good luck and let us no what u decide.

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Ya all know that at times a new younger female gets excited and chews it short and it errupts. It can be taken care of and much better than one inside the dog. Most are not genetic, but when one pup died this old gives me much concern about the litter and would like more info, if this is first litter for the female, is male healthy also.? Were they hand bred? Any trouble carry pups and how many born.? Just thinking about this. I would hate to pay for a good puppy only to have problems, and expense.
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i have just spoke to the breeder and asked her about the pup that died, it had something wrong with its bum and didnt have the muscles to let it go to the toilet and unfortunatley didnt survive
she has offered me the vets phone number to ring her and have a chat about this hernia if i want.
the mother had 4 pups which were born naturally but im not sure if it was her first litter or not
been reading up on thuis hernia and it is quite common with the apso and vets seem to deal with it without any problems (normally during nutering)

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ps anyone know a dedicated lhasa apso forum?

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But if common in the breed then you do not want to breed yours as it is genetic. If the mom chews too close if breeder was helping she would of known to tell you she saw her do it. If your spaying then its no big deal. Talk to vet and maybe you will feel better, just hate to see your money down the drain with genetic defects. Commonly they are just minor things,but not in breeding the dog. Let me know what vet says.
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i dont have any intentions of using him as a stud , he will be a family pet and thats will be all we are looking for infact he will be nutered when he is old enough

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