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Monkey · 11-27-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by K9to5

While I do find it kind of strange with the circumstances that she wouldn't let you pet the puppy, but I can definitely see where Monkey is coming from.

My Doberman, Ranger, is 5 1/2 months now and I didn't think I would have that much of a problem with people petting him. Most people believe the misconception that Dobermans are born vicious, and they aren't the most 'fluffy, cute' breed either. But whenever I go in a busy area to try and do some distraction training, no one will leave me alone! Ranger is a people lover, so the smallest gesture sets him off into 'pet me! i love you too!' mode. It gets very frustrating when I'm trying to have him concentrate on me, and not only that, but now I noticed that he is getting WAY too excitable with people. So now I might have to do what Monkey suggested; not let anyone pet him for awhile untill he is on his best behavior.

Another irritant is outside, in my fenced yard. I have to admit that our fence is a tad bit low for a Doberman, but I have faith in my training, so I didn't worry too much about it. What I didn't count on is everyone who passes by petting him! Before they wouldn't come near our yard with the other two dogs. But all of a sudden, a puppy makes it okay, I guess. So they are petting him when he is jumping up to put his front feet on the fence, and this is a BIG no no, because soon he will be big enough to look down and say 'hey, i can make this'. So now I'm not only yelling at my dog to get down off the fence, I sometimes have to yell at people to go away!

this is exactly what Im talking about..

The puppy might already be excellent with people and she's just fed up with it...

Its not sad anywhere bigboy and it aint that weird either.. as a puppy owner you get sick of it quickly. she might be an experienced puppy owner so she shot people down early in the game.. Nothing weird in my opinion.

and k9.. sorry dobermans has lost their rap :P

I rescued a big one in Sweden, granted we dont have no bans and you will see the big guarding breeds on the subway, buses etc (we are allowed to travel with them there), so its a bit more accepting but, not even a full grown dog goes safe now adays from petting hands... I have Tasha my 80 lbs muscle girl, people still wanna pet her to left and right.. But now she's fully trained so now its no issue no more.. just some individuals Im not comfortable with petting her so I say no no can do Im in a hurry!

K9to5 · 11-27-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkey

and k9.. sorry dobermans has lost their rap :P

I rescued a big one in Sweden, granted we dont have no bans and you will see the big guarding breeds on the subway, buses etc (we are allowed to travel with them there), so its a bit more accepting but, not even a full grown dog goes safe now adays from petting hands... I have Tasha my 80 lbs muscle girl, people still wanna pet her to left and right.. But now she's fully trained so now its no issue no more.. just some individuals Im not comfortable with petting her so I say no no can do Im in a hurry!

Believe me, I'm glad they they seem to have gotten rid of their fear, it's just a suprise for my area. I'm right outside the city of Philadelphia, so we still have that 'I look macho with my pit bull' attitude hanging around.

Monkey · 11-27-2010, 11:57 AM

well maybe people actually have learned to see a difference in dog breeds?? (that would be a first) *LOL*

but I hear ya, but its kinda nice though, I am so sick and tired of judgemental attitudes. the area where Im in now I have noticed a lot of people have a way more relaxed attitude around here (like locally hicksville) we have several nice socialized well behaved ones or somewhat well behaved that is owned by younger people that actaully CARE about their dogs. So Its nice to see when it's a bit opposite. BUT NO fun when you are in training.. double edged sword lol!

K9to5 · 11-27-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey

BUT NO fun when you are in training.. double edged sword lol!

Haha! Exactly!

CurlySue · 11-28-2010, 11:30 AM

Just going back to the issue of social interaction with people for puppies.....when Nellie was little, obviously she was tiny and cute, and like Monkey with Tasha, I couldn't walk 100 yards without people stoppig me to ask about her and want to pet her. Some people even tried to pick her up to cuddle her (which I didn't allow!).

Thinking it was a good thing, I allowed strangers to pet and fuss her whenever they wanted. Nowadays, I have a nervous and vocal dog who barks at strangers and intensely dislikes being touched by anyone she doesn't know.

Whether or not this relates back to the way I tried to socialise her, I don't know - she was a bad tempered trout at 6 weeks old, maybe thats just who she is - but I thought it was an interesting angle.

NB speaking of not liking being touched, why is it that when she does have to meet a stranger and I swiftly tell them to allow her to approach them at her own pace, but NOT to touch her......they always cave in to human nature, bend down over her and try to scruffle her ears?? Nellie stiffens, growls and snaps and I get a shocked look from the snap-ee. I mean, what part of "DO NOT touch her" do they not understand?

KCat · 11-28-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyllobernese

I never said it bothered me, I could care less whether I pet someone's dog, have enough of my own. What I thought was strange was that she said it was in training for the next two years so she did not want anyone to pat it. (not just me)

I am not criticizing her not wanting me to pet the dog, it is her dog and she can do whatever she wants with it.

yes- the question for me is - what happens after two years? After that length of time (more than enough time to teach whatever technique she might have been thinking of) I can't imagine why you would now say - well, it's been two years, now people can pet her. I understand that may not be her intent but that was the implication of the wording. After two years, I'll let certain people pet her - until then, she's off limits. It would be interesting to know *exactly* what she meant because while I can understand, "She's in training right now, I don't want her being petted by strangers" perfectly well and know many folks in my neighborhood who indicate that when clearly they are training their dog. OTOH, if the implication of the statement is the truth, I still don't get it.

To each their own

Bigboy · 11-29-2010, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KCat

yes- the question for me is - what happens after two years? After that length of time (more than enough time to teach whatever technique she might have been thinking of) I can't imagine why you would now say - well, it's been two years, now people can pet her. I understand that may not be her intent but that was the implication of the wording. After two years, I'll let certain people pet her - until then, she's off limits. It would be interesting to know *exactly* what she meant because while I can understand, "She's in training right now, I don't want her being petted by strangers" perfectly well and know many folks in my neighborhood who indicate that when clearly they are training their dog. OTOH, if the implication of the statement is the truth, I still don't get it.

To each their own

2 years that is a long time can't see the reasoning on this! Can't imagine how the dog would cope after that length of time with people other than the owners family! And yes it can be a bit annoying when you are training! But the very few people that do ask me get permission to stroke Nipper but I would never allow any one to pick her up even if they asked first, why cause it's my dog, so it has it's merits but only to a degree IMHO. ATB

Ivy · 11-29-2010, 09:54 AM

I don't always want my boys being petted and distracted during 'walks'. I'm trying to get them to walk with manners without succumbing to the many distractions there are. Imagine having a pair of big dogs going crazy to get the attention of all the strangers. That is not something I want.
Does that mean that my boys are not socialized....no....on the contrary, we go to dog parks, ALL the local pet stores, etc every week rain or shine. There are times that are for socialization and there are also times that are dedicated to moulding the dog and teaching them manners.

Perhaps that is what the owner of the Shar pei pup wants as well. if you see them again simply ask why.

**JGLI** · 11-29-2010, 11:43 AM

I'm with KCat on this one, I find it odd that someone would specify a time period such as two years in such a casual conversation unless the dog was in some sort of service training, which didn't seem to be the case.

Ivy · 11-29-2010, 11:49 AM

Some dogs take a couple of years to get over the puppy stages. We need to also take into consideration that it could only be an avarage time that this person meant. We hear people say all the time that they aren't going to spay or neuter their dog until the dog is fully-grown, that can mean 1-4 years. I'm planning to neuter Tynan at about 2 years, that doesn't neccessarily mean i'm going to book the appointment on the exact day, give or take.

Same could apply to this person and her pup.

11-27-2010, 11:57 AM	#13
Monkey Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Massapequa Posts: 9,812 Rep: 131 Unique Rep: 65	well maybe people actually have learned to see a difference in dog breeds?? (that would be a first) LOL but I hear ya, but its kinda nice though, I am so sick and tired of judgemental attitudes. the area where Im in now I have noticed a lot of people have a way more relaxed attitude around here (like locally hicksville) we have several nice socialized well behaved ones or somewhat well behaved that is owned by younger people that actaully CARE about their dogs. So Its nice to see when it's a bit opposite. BUT NO fun when you are in training.. double edged sword lol! __________________ I love dogs cause they do not lie. "I'm chillin' with the forum! "I've been fleeced by Draco!" "I've been fleeced by JGLI"

11-29-2010, 09:54 AM	#18
Ivy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,193 Rep: 17 Unique Rep: 5	I don't always want my boys being petted and distracted during 'walks'. I'm trying to get them to walk with manners without succumbing to the many distractions there are. Imagine having a pair of big dogs going crazy to get the attention of all the strangers. That is not something I want. Does that mean that my boys are not socialized....no....on the contrary, we go to dog parks, ALL the local pet stores, etc every week rain or shine. There are times that are for socialization and there are also times that are dedicated to moulding the dog and teaching them manners. Perhaps that is what the owner of the Shar pei pup wants as well. if you see them again simply ask why. Last edited by Ivy; 11-29-2010 at 11:07 AM..

11-29-2010, 11:43 AM	#19
JGLI Forum Director Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 10,458 Rep: 96 Unique Rep: 50	I'm with KCat on this one, I find it odd that someone would specify a time period such as two years in such a casual conversation unless the dog was in some sort of service training, which didn't seem to be the case. __________________ Help us Help you! Read and understand the Terms of Service, report offensive posts and Forum Reputation. Helpful Tips - in our FAQ Section and Newbie Guide. Connect with DogForum.org members - Add yourself to the dogforum.net member map.chat with us! Things to do - Start a blog. Be sure to visit the DogForum.net photo gallery Let's see YOU! Use your computer to benefit mankind - join the DogForum.org Folding Team.

11-29-2010, 11:49 AM	#20
Ivy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,193 Rep: 17 Unique Rep: 5	Some dogs take a couple of years to get over the puppy stages. We need to also take into consideration that it could only be an avarage time that this person meant. We hear people say all the time that they aren't going to spay or neuter their dog until the dog is fully-grown, that can mean 1-4 years. I'm planning to neuter Tynan at about 2 years, that doesn't neccessarily mean i'm going to book the appointment on the exact day, give or take. Same could apply to this person and her pup. Last edited by Ivy; 11-29-2010 at 11:57 AM..

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11-28-2010, 11:30 AM	#15
CurlySue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,172 Rep: 42 Unique Rep: 18	Just going back to the issue of social interaction with people for puppies.....when Nellie was little, obviously she was tiny and cute, and like Monkey with Tasha, I couldn't walk 100 yards without people stoppig me to ask about her and want to pet her. Some people even tried to pick her up to cuddle her (which I didn't allow!). Thinking it was a good thing, I allowed strangers to pet and fuss her whenever they wanted. Nowadays, I have a nervous and vocal dog who barks at strangers and intensely dislikes being touched by anyone she doesn't know. Whether or not this relates back to the way I tried to socialise her, I don't know - she was a bad tempered trout at 6 weeks old, maybe thats just who she is - but I thought it was an interesting angle. NB speaking of not liking being touched, why is it that when she does have to meet a stranger and I swiftly tell them to allow her to approach them at her own pace, but NOT to touch her......they always cave in to human nature, bend down over her and try to scruffle her ears?? Nellie stiffens, growls and snaps and I get a shocked look from the snap-ee. I mean, what part of "DO NOT touch her" do they not understand?

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