DogForum.net | Dog Forums and Community
     
 
Home Gallery Register Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Calendar Members List
Search
Go Back   DogForum.net | Dog Forums and Community > DogForum.net > New Members

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-14-2012, 05:10 AM   #1
Member
 
dezahp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 63

Rep: 10 dezahp is on a distinguished road
Unique Rep: 0
Default Hello..new here...help me decide on which dog to get

***I actually got my pup a year ago. I'm just posting a update and didn't want to make a new thread***

Hey everyone, my name is Alex. I'm in the process of moving right now and since our new place will have more room and a back yard, I want to get a dog. I want to get a blue nose pitbull and have been doing research on them. My friend also has a blue nose bully pitbull with papers that he is going to breed in a couple of months but I honestly don't want to wait especially that long. I've come across 2 dogs that I'm interested in getting but not sure which one...I've been thinking about all day long but just can't decide so here are the 2 options.

Option 1: Blue nose pitbull puppy $150 (male)
-4 weeks old
-needs to have shots and dewormed
-dad is a blue nose gotti pit with papers and mother is just a black nose pitbull with no papers
-cheap because the breed was a mistake and not meant to happen
- the gray puppy on the right

Option 2 - Full blue nose pitbull - Adopt (female)
-6 months old
-has shots and dewormed
-no papers
-The owner said he doesn't have time like he thought he would to take care of her because of his job so he wants to find her a new home. So that probably means that she isn't very socialized if at all. 6 months is a while but still young so might be able train her to still to be social
-

Last edited by dezahp; 02-08-2013 at 10:52 PM..

dezahp is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 09:46 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 8,499

Rep: 56 DeeLind7 will become famous soon enough
Unique Rep: 29
Default

Welcome to the forum! I'd go with the 6 month old dog. You may be saving him from a shelter, if the owner can't rehome him.

DeeLind7 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 09:01 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Bigboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: UK: Stoke on trent
Posts: 13,349

Rep: 73 Bigboy will become famous soon enough
Unique Rep: 38
Default

Welcome aboard dezahp So long as you are dedicated to not only socialising this pup but overall obidience training (positive traing classes could really help you) then yes I would say go for it, They are great dogs but get such a bad name some shelter are overflowing with them (usually down to the owner!) So before you decide do your research on the breed throughly Get it right and you will have a great/loyal dog, get it wrong and it's not good for the dog or you! Good luck let us know how you get on!
__________________
" Iam chillin with the forum! "

Thanks Monkey! I been fleeced Thanks Skunkstripe. Dave

ATB!

Bigboy is offline Bigboy's Gallery  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 09:27 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Kaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 4,293

Rep: 264 Kaos is a jewel in the roughKaos is a jewel in the roughKaos is a jewel in the rough
Unique Rep: 68
Default

First ad sounds like a pretty horrible back yard breeder who can't even be bothered to worm the pups, or am I reading that wrong? If you go have a look, you should be able to meet and assess the temperament of at least the mother. Does the pup happily approach you or does it hang back? Be prepared to walk away from the pup if you aren't permitted to meet the bitch, if she shows any fear or aggression, and observe carefully whether the pup happily approaches you or hangs back.

Similarly, if you go to see the 6 month old bitch, spend time assessing her temperament and sociability. Ask to take her out of the house on a walk. How is she with you, how is she passing strangers, or other dogs? You can train obedience behaviours and manners, but the critical period of socialisation is already over so if she shows fear or reactivity I would walk away. If she is a social butterfly who just needs to learn not to jump up and to loose leash walk - fabulous, you have a great prospect.

Don't allow yourself to make any firm decisions before you have met the dogs in question. This is a decision that is going to impact your life for possibly the next 15 years, so don't be in such a rush that you end up with a heap of trouble.

Kaos is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 09:43 PM   #5
Member
 
dezahp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 63

Rep: 10 dezahp is on a distinguished road
Unique Rep: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaos View Post
First ad sounds like a pretty horrible back yard breeder who can't even be bothered to worm the pups, or am I reading that wrong? If you go have a look, you should be able to meet and assess the temperament of at least the mother. Does the pup happily approach you or does it hang back? Be prepared to walk away from the pup if you aren't permitted to meet the bitch, if she shows any fear or aggression, and observe carefully whether the pup happily approaches you or hangs back.

Similarly, if you go to see the 6 month old bitch, spend time assessing her temperament and sociability. Ask to take her out of the house on a walk. How is she with you, how is she passing strangers, or other dogs? You can train obedience behaviours and manners, but the critical period of socialisation is already over so if she shows fear or reactivity I would walk away. If she is a social butterfly who just needs to learn not to jump up and to loose leash walk - fabulous, you have a great prospect.

Don't allow yourself to make any firm decisions before you have met the dogs in question. This is a decision that is going to impact your life for possibly the next 15 years, so don't be in such a rush that you end up with a heap of trouble.
Thanks. This has definitely helped me a lot and gave me some insight and advice. I will definitely do what you told me to. As for the first option with the puppy if the mother is fearful or aggressive, am I not able to train the puppy to be otherwise and more sociable? Because I thought that at least with the 4 week old puppy I would be able to train it like how I would want the pup to grow up to be.

dezahp is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:05 PM   #6
Junior Member
 
Dashed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: PA
Posts: 19

Rep: 11 Dashed is on a distinguished road
Unique Rep: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dezahp View Post
Thanks. This has definitely helped me a lot and gave me some insight and advice. I will definitely do what you told me to. As for the first option with the puppy if the mother is fearful or aggressive, am I not able to train the puppy to be otherwise and more sociable? Because I thought that at least with the 4 week old puppy I would be able to train it like how I would want the pup to grow up to be.
Socialization and training can definitely help with a fearful dog, but IME temperament does seem to have a genetic factor. So if the mom and/or dad is fearful or aggressive there is a pretty decent chance of some of the puppies having similar temperaments as adults. It's not an absolute but certainly is something to consider!

Also, the puppies really should stay with mom and littermates until at least about 8 weeks of age. Puppies learn so much during this time including some bite inhibition and lots of social skills. Plus depending on your location it may be illegal to sell/purchase/intentionally seperate mom and pups before 7 or eight weeks of age.

Last edited by Dashed; 02-14-2012 at 10:37 PM..

Dashed is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:29 PM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1

Rep: 10 Shelter Dog Lover is on a distinguished road
Unique Rep: 0
Default

That first one definitely looks like a backyard breeder. Here a very informative website about selecting a breeder:

A COMPARISON OF: Responsible Hobby Breeders and Backyard Breeders/Irresponsible Breeders

Also, I'm a attaching a link to pit bull rescue central. They have lots of information about pit bulls, and some info on breeders.

Pit Bull Rescue Central

Shelter Dog Lover is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2012, 10:54 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Kaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 4,293

Rep: 264 Kaos is a jewel in the roughKaos is a jewel in the roughKaos is a jewel in the rough
Unique Rep: 68
Default

Dashed is correct, genetic make up AND careful socialisation are BOTH important, why start off at a disadvantage? Just as ability to herd or retrieve can be passed on to offspring, so can fear and aggression. This doesn't mean that the offspring of fearful parents WILL be fearful, it means that they have a higher % risk of being fearful than those pups from bold parents. Picking tiny pups is notoriously difficult because their behaviour will change hugely before they reach adulthood.

Also, I agree that pups should not leave until around 8 weeks, certainly not at 4 weeks.

Kaos is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2012, 12:04 AM   #9
Member
 
dezahp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 63

Rep: 10 dezahp is on a distinguished road
Unique Rep: 0
Default

Ok thanks guys. I'm certainly absorbing all the feedback and information you guys are giving me and really appreciate it.

dezahp is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2012, 01:29 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Little Lucy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,640

Rep: 49 Little Lucy is on a distinguished road
Unique Rep: 19
Default

Welcome to the forum! The pups are both adorable. Take your time so you can make the best decision.
__________________
"I've got the , do you?" & "I'm chillin' with the forum! " "I've been fleeced by JGLI!"
Thanx sheplovr & JGLI

Little Lucy is offline Little Lucy's Gallery  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:52 PM.

Shogun Interactive Development Copyright 2006-2015 Shogun Interactive Development. All rights reserved.