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Old 12-30-2011, 08:10 PM   #1
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I'm new to the site, from Toronto, ON. I have dobermans and compete/ competed in schutzhund with them. My female is retired at 10 years old and my 18 mth old male just had TTA surgery to repair a torn cruciate. So now I wait to see if he'll compete again!

Anyway, in the meantime I'm going to check out the forum and maybe learn a few things

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Welcome Kim&Dobes, I hope your boy is doing well post-surgery, You have my complete empathy with cruciate surgery. What are your dogs names and I hope we get to see some pictures of them soon :-)
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Kim&Dobes, welcome to the forum! We have a great group of people here. Please enjoy reading some posts, and please post some pictures of your dogs!

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Old 12-30-2011, 08:25 PM   #4
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Welcome Kim&Dobes, I hope your boy is doing well post-surgery, You have my complete empathy with cruciate surgery. What are your dogs names and I hope we get to see some pictures of them soon :-)
Thanks! I have been a complete stressball since his surgery His name's Bosco.

I've been reading some of your threads on Chessie. How has she recovered? Do you know of anyone on this forum who has gone through this with a competitive sport dog and has gone on to compete again?

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Chessie is doing very well, thanks! She has actually had several cruciate surgeries, a mensical repair, and a THR. She has also been treated successfully with stem cell therapy. It's not uncommon for dogs with HD (as in her case) to have coexisting or resultant cruciate issues. Compounding that, she has a bad tendency to spin and torque on that leg when she is playing. So after all she has been through, I am very grateful for the wonderful results she has had. She is able to run and play very normally; I do, however, keep a close eye on her play and immediately stop or distract her when she gets those "spinning zoomies" (she sees 'fun'.. I see dollar signs and more surgery!) I am aware of owners whose dogs have undergone surgery for cruciate and have returned to competiton through her treatment center. Sometimes this has been against the specialists advice with not-so-happy consequences while other dogs have had very successful experiences. A lot depends on the nature and extent of the tear, the overall recovery of the dog as well as stablilty, age, and other health issues, and the type of sport in which the dog participates. I met a dock-diving lab that amazed me with his very speedy recovery and who was back in the water before I would have thought possible. I think your vet's input and monitoring of your dog's recovery will be the most helpful in making the decision if/when to return to sports. One thing that might also be helpful to you is to inquire about force plate analysis periodically post surgery. Chessie received this testing for about a year and a half after her surgery and stem cell treatment, the results were used to track progress and maintenance as well as to guide any future treatment.
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Thank you so much for your response! The surgeon I used has said that as long as nothing goes wrong, that Bosco should make a full recovery and go on to compete again. He's a very healthy young dog and in great shape, just a bad turn while running. He had a full cruciate tear and the meniscus was torn as well- which I hear is a good thing in this case since they won't have to go back in to operate if he'd torn it later.We go back in three weeks for xrays and to discuss how we can push him more. Currently Bosco is going for 5 minute walks, 4 times per day. Otherwise he spends his time in an ex-pen.

And thanks for mentioning force plate analysis and stem cell treatment! I was just going to get him into the rehab program at the clinic- hydrotherapy, etc.

As for returning to the sport, I would very much like him to be able to compete again. He was proving to be a very nice schutzhund dog! I'l admit, I'm very sad at the thought he may not be able to as this was my main reason for getting him and he loves it so much. But he's my boy so I'll do whatever it is he needs. And who knows...he may very well be a schutzhund washout but a a fantastic dock diver!

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I'm glad to hear the good news from your vet, I hope things go well :-) I very much understand about those "bad turns"... that is how Chessie injured herself the second time. She had the scenario you describe where she had to have her meniscus surgery six months after her first cruciate surgery so I'm glad that is not the case for Bosco. I would have loved hydrotherapy for Chessie, but I wasn't able to find a place locally that offered the therapy on the level and schedule she would have needed. (she probably would have hated it as she hates water!) Bosco sounds like a wonderful boy, I hope we get to see some pictures of him soon (not-so-subtle hint ) and please keep us updated on his progress.
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OMG! What great pictures!

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Welcome to the forum Kim&Dobes! You are the second person to join today from Ontario. I'm from the Niagara Region. Your dogs are beautiful! Sorry to hear of Bosco's surgery. Hopefully he will heal up wonderfully and be able to compete again.
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