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Old 05-23-2016, 05:39 PM   #11
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Well yes keep taking her to the classes as where there are dogs there will be people too Glad you a tackling the growling as you cant have a dog that growls so well done and keep up the good work
Thanks! We don't take her to classes right now; the trainer comes to our home to work with us.

In terms of socializing her, we've tried to take her to Home Depot to walk around but she gets too anxious and starts pulling a lot. She did better before but seems to be getting more shy - is this possible?

We don't have many friends, as we just moved to a new home. Where else do you take your dog in public? Maybe this will give me some ideas as to where we can take her so she can be exposed to more people.

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Thanks! We don't take her to classes right now; the trainer comes to our home to work with us.

In terms of socializing her, we've tried to take her to Home Depot to walk around but she gets too anxious and starts pulling a lot. She did better before but seems to be getting more shy - is this possible?

We don't have many friends, as we just moved to a new home. Where else do you take your dog in public? Maybe this will give me some ideas as to where we can take her so she can be exposed to more people.
My Apologies! Rushed through your post and can see you go to dog day care while this is great Libby needs to meet more people in a class enviroment so look in to this as I feel this would help her shyness. Good luck
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My girl's a Pit x Shep and looks a lot like yours, you could try Googling some images of them. Depending on where you live, it's more likely she's a Pitbull/Shepherd than a Boxer/Shepherd (pitbulls are much more common and have higher rates of abandonment and abuse sadly). It's possible Libby's a Lab mix but I don't see anything to suggest it personally. She's very slender and the fur looks (from the pictures) to be more - flecked, is that the word? - than a Lab's coat would ever be. And her head/face is definitely more of a pitbull/boxer/shepherd than a Lab. If she's Lab she definitely takes after the shepherd part!

As for her shyness, that's something which is hard to deal with. You say she growls at some one in your house? I really suggest then that they keep high value treats on them and drop them when you aren't around and the dog is calm. Eventually she'll learn that this person = something awesome and feel better in the house. Removing her from the bed when she growls concerns me a little bit... while she definitely shouldn't be allowed to growl, you could be just as easily be training her to just not give a warning and bite instead one day. It's vital that the core of the problem is addressed as soon as possible. All that being said, I'm a new dog owner so don't take everything I say as gospel and I highly suggest you keep working with that trainer!

Socializing sounds like it's a challenge so far. I think taking her to Home Depot is a bad idea - all the people, the strange and strong smells, the noise, all of that will be adding to her stress instead of making her feel more comfortable. I have an idea... what is your front yard like? Is it fenced in? Crazy shot in the dark, but if you do, try putting up a sign that says you're trying to get her used to people and have a little bag of dog treats strangers can feed her when they pass by. She'll be in a comfortable and safe place where she can retreat farther away if she feels overwhelmed, and at the same time build confidence and trust by approaching the human instead of the other way around.

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Completey agree with The DireStrait And would addd add by using command word and hand gesture to get down or off the bed or furniture then you don't risk being bitten As for letting people have treats great but they mustn't have eye contact with your dog simply get them to toss the treats to the dog start off quite far away and gradually and slowly get the treats nearer the person tossing them again no contact verbal or other wise! This will take time and patience I would start doing this in your home with a few friends first so the dog won't be overwhelmed by too many people. Good luck
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Welcome to the forum. Libby is a good looking girl. Bless you for adopting her. My dogs are also rescue pups!
Thank you so much for your note! My fiancé and I were committed to rescuing; you are very kind for rescuing your dogs too!

Mine is a little overly attached to me but from what I understand of her past, this is her first real home. She is quite appreciative of being able to sit on the couch and sleep in the bed.

I'm happy to try to make up for the terrible things humans have done to her

I really like this forum -- what kind of dogs do you have?

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My girl's a Pit x Shep and looks a lot like yours, you could try Googling some images of them. Depending on where you live, it's more likely she's a Pitbull/Shepherd than a Boxer/Shepherd (pitbulls are much more common and have higher rates of abandonment and abuse sadly). It's possible Libby's a Lab mix but I don't see anything to suggest it personally. She's very slender and the fur looks (from the pictures) to be more - flecked, is that the word? - than a Lab's coat would ever be. And her head/face is definitely more of a pitbull/boxer/shepherd than a Lab. If she's Lab she definitely takes after the shepherd part!

As for her shyness, that's something which is hard to deal with. You say she growls at some one in your house? I really suggest then that they keep high value treats on them and drop them when you aren't around and the dog is calm. Eventually she'll learn that this person = something awesome and feel better in the house. Removing her from the bed when she growls concerns me a little bit... while she definitely shouldn't be allowed to growl, you could be just as easily be training her to just not give a warning and bite instead one day. It's vital that the core of the problem is addressed as soon as possible. All that being said, I'm a new dog owner so don't take everything I say as gospel and I highly suggest you keep working with that trainer!

Socializing sounds like it's a challenge so far. I think taking her to Home Depot is a bad idea - all the people, the strange and strong smells, the noise, all of that will be adding to her stress instead of making her feel more comfortable. I have an idea... what is your front yard like? Is it fenced in? Crazy shot in the dark, but if you do, try putting up a sign that says you're trying to get her used to people and have a little bag of dog treats strangers can feed her when they pass by. She'll be in a comfortable and safe place where she can retreat farther away if she feels overwhelmed, and at the same time build confidence and trust by approaching the human instead of the other way around.

Thanks for your thoughtful response! Do you have any pictures of your dog that you could share? Everyone has said Lab/Shepherd mix but I don't think that's right because she doesn't have a long snout.

We are definitely concerned about the growling as well. She is very fearful of my fiancé and had stopped growling at him when he approaches me before leaving for work in the morning. Unfortunately, this morning she growled at him again, which is weird because we thought we had made such tremendous progress.

Nope, yard isn't fenced in. Fiancé said it wouldn't be a problem to put her on the run line when we're outside so we don't have to watch her like a hawk. Nope. Wrong.

I appreciate the suggestions; I think I'll start out slowly. One big problem is that we don't have any friends nearby so we're usually home by ourselves. I work from home so if she's not at daycare, she's with me while I sit at the computer for 10 hours a day.

I think it'll get better; it's just going to take time, patience, consistency, and training.

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Completey agree with The DireStrait And would addd add by using command word and hand gesture to get down or off the bed or furniture then you don't risk being bitten As for letting people have treats great but they mustn't have eye contact with your dog simply get them to toss the treats to the dog start off quite far away and gradually and slowly get the treats nearer the person tossing them again no contact verbal or other wise! This will take time and patience I would start doing this in your home with a few friends first so the dog won't be overwhelmed by too many people. Good luck
Hi -- thanks for your note!

I was woken up by her growling at him and was a bit startled -- it's so hard to think on my feet, especially when I can't just say 'no.'

I will keep trying!

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Is Libby jealous of your fiancé? If she's fine while at daycare then it seems more personal with the growling and all. If she has a crate you might consider keeping her there during the night until she gets used to him. It would be terrible if she bit one you while you were sleeping! The most important thing to know is that this kind of mental issue might never really go away - you can make it better with time, but you'll still need to be careful. Don't assume she's better after a few weeks and let your guard down.

I don't have the best pictures of my girl right now, but I'll post what I have. Tomorrow I'll see if I can get my good camera and take some newer ones. One of them she's at six weeks, the others are older, I think at six or seven months. She's eight months old now, so still younger than Libby. Now that I'm looking at the pictures their eyes really have the same look!
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So true to the last post. It seems to me mild form of Resource Guarding which can manifest it's self in many ways wether it be people, food, toys etc So for now I would have a comfy bed in the same room as you she must give up the bed on command and then praise and praise and treat So your fiance come in to the room you give the command that she leaves your bed. it doesn't matter that it's a rescue dogs so long as the command is positive etc I see no problem in using a command to protect your fiance Also take a look at N.I.L.I.F training it stands for: Nothing In Life Is Free It's a positive way to train
a dog so even toys are not the dogs till they are told that it's theirs Plenty of threads on this by using the search box top right of this forum
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My story is a little different. When we lost the last of our 4 golden retrievers at age 13 in Aug. 2014, we adopted a 7 year old blind Great Pyrenees from the rescue. Lost him 3 1/2 weeks later to hemangiosarcoma and they told us we would either have our money back or take another dog. We opted for another dog.

Moose was 7 and had been with this couple for 4 yers. Before than, unknown. He was found at about age 3 stealing food from an open cafe on the Rivewalk in San Antonio. This couple had atopted Moose from teh Texas Great Pyrenees Rescue and adoption contract reads that if you for any reason ahve to give your Pyr up, you will return it to them. They had decided to move back home to Minn or Wis--I forget off the top of my head--to take over the Bed and Breakfast and knew that was no place for a 115 pound barkign dog--and prys LOVE to bark. They made an agreement with the rescue that even tho he was back on resuce adoption list, they wantd to foster until either he found a home or they moved. So they still had him when we settled on him. We met them half way and got him

Theey asked if I coudl elt them know how hehad made the 100 mile trip, how he was settling in, etc and gave me their e-mail. Well, I did and ever couple of weeks would send a "news letter" telling of his trips to the beach, Tractor Supply, Lowes, etc and pictures. They sent copies of pictgures they had taken of him. Then in Feb. they said they had a favor to ask me me, but would understand if I said no. They golden retriever had turned 11 on Jan. 8 and had really bad arthritis in hips and knees and they did not know how she would weather the harks winters up there, would we be willing to take her--knew we had previusly owned several goldens. We jumped at the chance.

Met them half way again. Got her in our car and started home and she was terrified. Now, she was 11 yrs 5 weeks old and had been with them since she was 5 weeks old. she didn't know what was happening. She was glad to be back with Moose, but was scared to venture arund the house much, scared to go outside alone, etc. However, with lots of love and attention, in a few weeks she started acting like a normla golden--trying to "clean" the dishes in dish washer, figured how to get the door open to get to trash can and get in it, started carryhing her teddy bear (they sent it with her) around, wanting tummy rubs, demanind attention. We took her places and she was scared at first, but does better. She does still try to be as close to us as possible, but loves for peole to stop and pet her. Funny thing, she was never scared of people that came here, loved the grand kids, but was just scared of "the house" I guess you could say. Now at age 12 1/3 years, you would think she ha been here her entire life.


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