sharian

Thanks Borzoi, I would have mentioned those two very important points already highlighted by Janie, had we been talking about purebred pedigree breeding, but glad you pointed them out, it seems they may have been omitted from some breeders requirements! having seen some Pharaoh Hound examples at shows.

Chaz

But what about the people who love dogs, but can't afford that up front payment, or if someone has more then one type of dog, and a accident happens? There are many reasons for me that a cross breed could be bred, and as long as the parents are healthy dogs then I don't see a problem with it, health checks and things.

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sharian

If you read all of the posts on this thread, hopefully your questions will be answered.

Borzoi mad

Chaz If they can't afford to buy it how are going tobe able to pay vet billsand if they were responsible owners then the accident would not happen in the first place.

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Darcyin

I think the above is in ref to me : Yes I have found that a dog which was sired by my stud dog has had a less than perfect run of things, Yes I have lost sleep over it,
BUT... had he have been a cross breed dog, the chance of me ever finding out about it would have been greatly reduced, there would be no paper work to follow back on, x breed pups can look like one thing when a puppy then change compleatly so you wouldnt be able to tell your pups at a later date by looking at them..
At least with Danny I have been able to trace it back, I still live in hope that the new owner may sell him to me...

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janie

Absolutrely agree with Sharian I could not put it better

I cant understand why you would purchase a specific pure breed dog and purposfully breed from another breed it totally bemuses me why people would want to do this.

I have no issues with crosses not at all but mostly and I say mostly not all the time but mostly they come about from accidents which again is either irrisponsible or unfortunate and then you have a litter of little pups that need to be loved and cared for just as any dog should be but with so many dogs in shelters and I would imagine the higher majority are either mixes or pure bred bitches who have been used and abused at puppy Mills isnt it best to breed dogs that we already know the breed history on and how thier health and personality/temprements are

I will have restrictions on any pup I sell and have a contract signed but as Sharian said I cant enforce it and they could go and breed with her which is unfortunate but no puppy born to one of my girls sold will be able to be registered with the KC due to the restriction on thier pedigree and most people these days who want a pedigree or designer (if thats what people want to call them) dog, want KC papers so many of these pups would not be sold too easily IMO and yes there has been intentional crossing of breeds for what may seem postitive reasons but I feel that there are so many breeds out there that we could if we look hard enough find one for each need we humans seem to have for dogs

I dont want to lose sight of where my chosen breed has come from I dont want them to be mixed and watered down so thier true identity is lost my standard schnauzers well the breed itself is not a popular breed and if the few of us that absolutely love the breed dont breed responsibly for the betterment of the particular breed then they will surely not survive as a breed.

And plus if someone is just going to cross two breeds for the purpose of a litter which in most cases would be fact then they are not going to be too bothered about breeding for sound health, temprement and breed standards are they, so you open up the flood gates for many pups to be born with no suitable homes to go to with possible horrible health problems and temprements not guarenteed.

Chaz

I don't think it is, as it is off another breed lol, so there is more then one

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ozzysmum

I think a lot of pedigree dogs have come about through someone deciding they needed or wanted a particular type which at that point there was not a pedigree breed available so by crossing of 2 or 3 other breeds they produced a breed that other latched on to there are very few original pure bred dogs most pedigrees today have been created by cross breeding different pedigree dogs, so with out someone else's foresight most breed would not be here, who knows what breeds will be excepted in the future and what is viewed as a cross breed now will become a pedigree in the future as once a breed is breeding true it is viewed as a breed in its own right

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Chaz

there is a lot of poeple who can't afford the upfront of a dog, but can get the payments for vet bills, and things, through insurance, a quick dip in the budget that can come through after the insurance comes through, or a vet like mine, who says that if your dog needs treatment quickly then he will set up a payment plan, where you pay x amount every week or month.

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Darcyin

But she will still know about it due to the paper work,...?

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