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Flossika · 07-10-2007, 04:49 PM

Being has I saw the Schoodle page, i thought i'd show you the Cockapoo I think they are stunning, i'm not to fussed on the paler colours, but the blacks & black & white's are beautiful, i might look into the breed/x breed abit more.. i would love to know more info about them, this is what i gathered so far plus a piccy of the one i'd LOVE to have !! hes adorable..

Info I Found!!

Cockapoo Height : 14-15 inches (35-38 cm.)
Cockapoo Weight : Teacup Toy - under 6 pounds; Toy - 6 to 12 pounds;
Miniature/Mini - 13 to 18 pounds
Maxi - over 19 pounds.
Cockapoo Colors: Most common are white, black with brown highlights on feet and chin
source: http://www.puppyparadise.com/cock_a_poo_breed_info.html

{image removed by skunkstripe as per copyright }

applesmom · 07-10-2007, 05:29 PM

The cockapoo is not a breed! It's a designer mutt!

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What's the story with these new breeds, or is it just a mutt?

by Jane Anderson

You've just heard of a groovy new breed. It's non-shedding, medium sized, great with children, and highly intelligent. And it has no health problems! It's been created by a very thoughtful breeder who had your best intentions at heart!
Wow, you've got it made! The perfect dog! oh, and when it might be twice the price of a pedigree dog, won't your neighbours be envious!
Well if you fell for this, you're about to be taken for a ride.
Here are some cross-breed truths:
- There is no such thing as a "new" breed. Everything has been tried before, and invariably with pretty average results.
- When you mix breeds, it's extremely unlikely you'll get a "non-shedding, hypo-allergenic breed"
- There is absolutely no proof that a mixed breed is healthier than a pedigree dog.
- Mixed breed dogs cannot be shown.
- There is such a variability in offspring, that no breeder of mutts can guarantee why your pup will look like as an adult
- No breeder of mutts can offer a real guarantee for a "healthy, intelligent, great with children" mutt pup.
- Invariably, the parents of the mutt puppy are poor in quality. You will NEVER produce lovely pups from average (or worse) parents, regardless of breed or mixed breed)
In fact, you might want to join our new email list with the aim to learn more about cross breeds, with particular emphasis to temperament, coat type, genetics, and health. Click here.
So before you rush out and buy that cute little labradoodle, that golden-doodle, or labra****z, keep in mind, you're about to be ripped off.
And for those of you who are niaive enough to IMPORT mutts such as labradoodles, and other such multi-doodle mutts, you are doing yourself and dogs a great injustice. If you feel the need for a mutt, please go to your local dog shelter, and rescue a pup from there.
So mutt breeders make me angry? Well, it's very disappointing to see people being ripped off when they could get a well bred pure bred dog for a cheaper price.
However, there are people out there who are willing to pay more for a cross breed, then they are a good pure bred dog. Sometimes they justify it because they may have read an article where some "celebrity" has one, so they need to have one. Let me tell you straight,if I had a dollar for every person who contacted me about their fancy cross breed that turned out to not have the characteristics they were told it would, I'd be a wealthy woman. Then there are the very angry people who will continue to justify their decision by telling me their dog "hardly sheds", or is "nearly hypo-allergenic". hmmmm.... too bad it doesn't though, like you were promised by the breeder.
Go and talk to a few groomers, talk to a few vets, and visit a few shelters before you try one of the cross breeds. You'll be sadly disappointed at the terrible stories you'll hear that will put it quickly into perspective. You'll see "fancy" cross breeds dumped at alarming rates, and you'll certainly want to know why.
And if you think that because the cross breed stock is imported from Australia so it must be good - let me tell you straight - I live in Australia, and amongst the knowing dog community, the cross breeds sold at ridiculous prices are seen as a disgrace. In fact, one of the so called "big names" in labradoodles has already tried to acquire my own pure bred dogs to mix with her own. Funny isn't it that the "bad" pure bred genes that cross breeders are trying to avoid and so quickly sought after by them. Goodness knows how those purebred genes magically fix themselves when the dogs are bred to another breed, with its own set of genes. Unless cross breeders are really genetic scientists who are doing genetic modification, all you'll end up with in the mixed breed is a mix of a lot of things. This is why the F2, and F3 generations are seen as such disasters.

http://www.learntobreed.com/mutts.html

**skunkstripe** · 07-10-2007, 05:43 PM

Jane Anderson is mixing up the term "mutt" and "cross-breed" or "mixed-breed" and I think she knows better. Most of the time she uses it correctly, except when she is trying to make it sound insulting, when she reverts to "mutt". I suppose since she is paying for her own web site she is entitled to use it for ranting as much as she cares to.

applesmom · 07-10-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by skunkstripe

Jane Anderson is mixing up the term "mutt" and "cross-breed" or "mixed-breed" and I think she knows better. Most of the time she uses it correctly, except when she is trying to make it sound insulting, when she reverts to "mutt". I suppose since she is paying for her own web site she is entitled to use it for ranting as much as she cares to.

Good catch!

The accepted definition of Mutt is
Mixed-breed dog, a dog that is a mixture of more than two breeds.

She'd probably make her point better if she'd stuck to using the term designer breeds rather than the terms she used.

But as you said, it's her website and her opinions! And even though I might have worded it a little differently too, I do agree with her!

These designer breeders are to be held just as directly responsible for the unnecessary deaths of millions of dogs annually as the BYB, careless pet owners and puppy mills!

The numbers of deaths in shelters don't even take into account the puppies from these sources that die within weeks or months of birth due to disease, lack of proper care or inherited health problems.

Flossika · 07-10-2007, 06:21 PM

okay, i won't bother doin that again

applesmom · 07-10-2007, 06:35 PM

Here's a discouraging news item that fits in well with this topic.

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REJECTED POOCHES NEED LOVING HOMES
Designed and dumped
Once-pricey purebreds are plentiful at county shelter
Wednesday, February 14, 2007
Barbara Carmen
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Amy Weldele was thrilled to find herself the owner of a genuine designer dog, list price $1,250, for a mere $117. "Friends tell me, Wow, you must have spent a lot of money, " Weldele, of the Northwest Side, said of her Labradoodle. She just smiles and refers them to her source, the Franklin County Dog Shelter. Designer dogs, now as trendy in some neighborhoods as Volvo station wagons and Coach bags, are being dumped in numbers that have county officials stumped.
http://www.dispatch.com/dispatch/con...214-B1-02.html

happysaz133 · 07-10-2007, 08:09 PM

It's not a Cockerpoo, its a crossbreed. They are a bit cute, but still just a crossbreed.

xcolbi · 07-10-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by happysaz133

It's not a Cockerpoo, its a crossbreed. They are a bit cute, but still just a crossbreed.

Yes, it is a cross-breed, but someone did give it the name Cockapoo, which makes it sound like an actual breed. Therefore, some people think they are purebreds and buy them for big money. They were selling Cockapoos in the local Pet Store one day for over $1000.

happysaz133 · 07-10-2007, 08:44 PM

I know its crazy how much people will pay for these so-called 'posh' breeds! Go to a rescue centre and you can find hundreds of cross-breeds, and while there you could rename everyone with a 'posh' name. Do you think people would want them then?

07-10-2007, 04:49 PM	#1
Flossika Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales UK Posts: 373 Rep: 13 Unique Rep: 2	The Cockapoo! Being has I saw the Schoodle page, i thought i'd show you the Cockapoo I think they are stunning, i'm not to fussed on the paler colours, but the blacks & black & white's are beautiful, i might look into the breed/x breed abit more.. i would love to know more info about them, this is what i gathered so far plus a piccy of the one i'd LOVE to have !! hes adorable.. Info I Found!! Cockapoo Height : 14-15 inches (35-38 cm.) Cockapoo Weight : Teacup Toy - under 6 pounds; Toy - 6 to 12 pounds; Miniature/Mini - 13 to 18 pounds Maxi - over 19 pounds. Cockapoo Colors: Most common are white, black with brown highlights on feet and chin source: http://www.puppyparadise.com/cock_a_poo_breed_info.html {image removed by skunkstripe as per copyright } __________________ Labrador's & Cocker's Are The Best!!! Buddy / Flossika / Frankie / Tegan "If dogs could talk, perhaps we would find it as hard to get along with them as we do with people." Last edited by skunkstripe; 07-10-2007 at 04:54 PM.. Reason: edited to conform to copy and paste rules

07-10-2007, 05:43 PM	#3
skunkstripe All American Dog Lover Join Date: May 2006 Location: New England USA Posts: 20,995 Blog Entries: 15 Rep: 359 Unique Rep: 142	Jane Anderson is mixing up the term "mutt" and "cross-breed" or "mixed-breed" and I think she knows better. Most of the time she uses it correctly, except when she is trying to make it sound insulting, when she reverts to "mutt". I suppose since she is paying for her own web site she is entitled to use it for ranting as much as she cares to. __________________ Help us Help you! Read and understand the Terms of Service, report offensive posts and Forum Reputation. Helpful Tips - in our FAQ Section and Newbie Guide. Connect with DogForum.org members - Add yourself to the dogforum.net member map.chat with us! Things to do - Start a blog. Be sure to visit the DogForum.net photo gallery Let's see YOU! Use your computer to benefit mankind - join the DogForum.org Folding Team. Thanks Fede for the sigpic! I've been fleeced by Draco!

07-10-2007, 06:21 PM	#5
Flossika Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales UK Posts: 373 Rep: 13 Unique Rep: 2	okay, i won't bother doin that again __________________ Labrador's & Cocker's Are The Best!!! Buddy / Flossika / Frankie / Tegan "If dogs could talk, perhaps we would find it as hard to get along with them as we do with people."

07-10-2007, 08:09 PM	#7
happysaz133 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,566 Rep: 40 Unique Rep: 20	It's not a Cockerpoo, its a crossbreed. They are a bit cute, but still just a crossbreed. __________________

07-10-2007, 08:44 PM	#9
happysaz133 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,566 Rep: 40 Unique Rep: 20	I know its crazy how much people will pay for these so-called 'posh' breeds! Go to a rescue centre and you can find hundreds of cross-breeds, and while there you could rename everyone with a 'posh' name. Do you think people would want them then? __________________

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