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Old 07-26-2010, 11:46 AM   #1
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Just wondering. I know the breed standard is 65-80 for a male. Have you seen much smaller Labs? It's possible I'm seeing a mix so I'm not worried. The dog is healthy, nice coat, etc. But so small. He's about 40 lbs tops from what I can tell. Half Ming's size.
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I don't think anyone is deliberately breeding miniature Labs, if that's what you are asking! They normally are pretty big, including all the ones that don't meet the standard. I also think a lot of dogs are called labs when they may or may not be since it seems to be the catch all breed when someone is trying to guess what kind of dog a mystery mutt is.
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I don't think anyone is deliberately breeding miniature Labs, if that's what you are asking! They normally are pretty big, including all the ones that don't meet the standard. I also think a lot of dogs are called labs when they may or may not be since it seems to be the catch all breed when someone is trying to guess what kind of dog a mystery mutt is.
I was more wondering if he had the wrong food as a puppy. It's more likely that he's a mutt though because I don't think these folks could afford a purebred dog. He's definitely at least part Lab. Looks like every bit black Lab but small. He's about a year and a half old. Has been with the family since a tiny puppy. At six months he seemed well on his way to getting close to Ming's size but then he just stopped growing as much somewhere in the latter half of his first year. I'm not worried he's being neglected or anything. He is loved and fed.
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smallest pure breed lab male I have seen is 45 ish lbs.. here they call them field labs

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I think there are people who will breed and name anything if they believe there is a market for it:

http://www.smallbreeddogs.net/miniat..._labrador.html

http://www.labrador-retriever-guide....retriever.html

http://www.petheartprints.com/Dog/mi...labradors.html

I'd love to see a picture of the dog you are describing KCat, it sounds adorable.
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I was more wondering if he had the wrong food as a puppy. It's more likely that he's a mutt though because I don't think these folks could afford a purebred dog. He's definitely at least part Lab. Looks like every bit black Lab but small. He's about a year and a half old. Has been with the family since a tiny puppy. At six months he seemed well on his way to getting close to Ming's size but then he just stopped growing as much somewhere in the latter half of his first year. I'm not worried he's being neglected or anything. He is loved and fed.
Dogs not fed properly as pups don't just come out being small. They will grow as much as they would have, regardless, but may have serious bone and joint issues. If he's happy, healthy, and small, then he got the food he needed, and is just small. Depending on the breed, pups are at maximum growth phase around 5-6 months, and growth tapers off after that. Again, depending on breed, dogs reach 80-90% of adult height and weight by around 10 months, and grow much slower thereafter. Even some of the large and giant breeds that grow for two years grow very slowly in the second 12 months. Sounds to me like a fairly normal first year growth profile and that he's just small.
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Mr Mel's cousin has a lab that is about Simba's size and she is only 18inches. They have bred from her twice and half her puppies are bigger than she is, some are the same size. There's a fair few tiny labs around here - they tend to be working bred I think, the show ones are bigger and stockier.

Simba is weeny for her breed too - everyone assumes she is a sheltie, but she's just a mini sized collie! She only weighs 15kg (33lbs) and is the smallest collie that anyone I seem to meet who knows collies, has ever heard of (bless her)
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My Coco was 4 lbs at 6 weeks, 25 lbs at 6 months, and 50 lbs at 2 years. She didn't break the 50 lb mark until just after turning 2 years old. Now she's kind of "plump" at about 70 lbs.
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Dogs not fed properly as pups don't just come out being small. They will grow as much as they would have, regardless, but may have serious bone and joint issues. If he's happy, healthy, and small, then he got the food he needed, and is just small. Depending on the breed, pups are at maximum growth phase around 5-6 months, and growth tapers off after that. Again, depending on breed, dogs reach 80-90% of adult height and weight by around 10 months, and grow much slower thereafter. Even some of the large and giant breeds that grow for two years grow very slowly in the second 12 months. Sounds to me like a fairly normal first year growth profile and that he's just small.
Ah. Thanks for that explanation. Yeah, he's happy and seems healthy all around. I guess I'm so used to Ming who seemed to just keep growing and growing that first year. We got him at 9 months and he put on 20 lbs by 12 months. He's just a big oaf. He didn't put on weight after that but did put on a little more height. Anyway, I'm glad to read that. Like I said, I know he's loved and well taken care of just wondering why he is as small as he is. So that seems to say that he's either genetically on the small side for a Lab or a mix. I don't know the folks well enough to barge in and ask.
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