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Old 09-11-2008, 11:07 AM   #1
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Default Black and tan labs.

I heard of these over the loud speaker at Crufts but never went to see them, I just wondered if anyone has ever seen or heard of this rare colour or even had one, and I would like to know what the people who knew off these dogs thinks of them as I am gutted that I missed the chance to speak to the breeder of these dogs. I spent all the time that I was there chatting with the people at the discover dogs stand not the show ring as I find it more intresting to talk about the dogs behaviour and you do get to see some rare breeds there.

http://www.guidingeyes-md.org/Misc%2...adorsBCWEB.htm
here is a link about the black and tan and brindle labs.
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They just look like a Lab X Rottie to me. Just stick with black, yellow and chocolate in my opinion!

I don't like the 'Silver' Labs that have started appearing in America either.
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Yes I have heard of them. They are described here:
http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/mismarks.html

There is nothing wrong with the dogs, ie the markings are not associated with any health problems, but it is not a standard color.
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I've heard of them too, though it does look a lot like a rottie puppy! I don't understand why certain colours are disallowed in breeds, as long as they're pure it surely doesn't matter. I've never understood why white boxers and german shepherds aren't allowed either.

It differs from country to country too, in this country a colour-headed white, or sable merle collie or sheltie cannot be shown, but is acceptable in the US. Absurd!
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Yes I have heard of them. They are described here:
http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/mismarks.html

There is nothing wrong with the dogs, ie the markings are not associated with any health problems, but it is not a standard color.
Thanks, I have a special spot for the Reds aswell although I haven't seen the silver. Some of the dogs on that link are so gorgeous, thanks very much for that.
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I've heard of them too, though it does look a lot like a rottie puppy! I don't understand why certain colours are disallowed in breeds, as long as they're pure it surely doesn't matter. I've never understood why white boxers and german shepherds aren't allowed either.

It differs from country to country too, in this country a colour-headed white, or sable merle collie or sheltie cannot be shown, but is acceptable in the US. Absurd!
It just depends on what the people at the head of the breed think looks best IMHO. But I think the same as you any colour should be allowed as long as it is one of that type of dog, its like staffs though I have seen a black and tan one of them but thats not allowed in the show ring as they are undesirable no matter how nice they look.
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They just look like a Lab X Rottie to me. Just stick with black, yellow and chocolate in my opinion!

I don't like the 'Silver' Labs that have started appearing in America either.
Just think that people thought that about the chocs at one point aswell and my mate who breeds the labs still won't breed the choc ones.
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Though there are recessive genes in almost any breed which will cause a mismark if parents with the same recessive color genes are bred, it's relatively rare.

The average hobby breeder who does their research properly isn't likely to have even one mismark show up in a lifetime of breeding.

The reason the mismarks are showing up in this strain of labs is because they do high volume breeding to fill the need for service dogs.

The majority of so-called rare colors that show up in advertisements now are a result of cross breeding by unethical breeders with the sole intention of cashing in on a new color fad.
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Thanks for the info. I have never heard of them but they are adorable. I do have to agree that is looks like a Rott. I love Rotts and labs both. I had to look up the silver lab...I think they look similar to a weimaraner in a few pics. Very cute also. I'm sucker for most dogs though....I'm not choosie

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That is a recessive gene for sure makes it look like a mix breed. I hate mis colors of orginals. Keep dogs what they are suppose to be and stop this inventing problems. I just hate breeders doing the most stupid things experminating on dogs for colors, etc. Bad to the Bone.!
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