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Old 03-13-2007, 09:50 AM   #1
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Some people may not understand why a dog is co-owned. The purpose of a co-ownership does several things. Number one- it keeps the breeding of show dogs with all parties agreeing the breeding would be a good one- not only for the reputation of the dog, but also the litter to better the breed and be a good example of the parents of the puppy.
Second- co ownership also insures that the person can not sell the dog to someone without the breeders knowledge.( or at least not sold with papers) . Not only does this protect their breeding of that dog- such as being sold to a puppy mill etc, but also insures the dog will always be recorded as being theirs in the event something happens to the original owner.
One of my shepherds, the owner died. Without that co- ownership having the dog returned to me, I am not sure what would have happened to the dog as the estate was broken up. After all- I approved of their purchase of one of my pups, in their family situation. And that situation only. Shepherds are fabulous dogs in the right situations- in the wrong ones- they can be a handful.
Even a pup destined to be spayed or neutered at this point would still be co-owned. I have seen too many good situations turn terribly bad to not do it.
Co-ownership is also used to show that the pups owner is considered to be a person they want for the life of the dog, association with this person in potential of the dogs accomplishments.

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When I bred cats & placed them in their new homes. I had a co-ownership contracts on all of them (even pet quality cats) instead of a standard sales contract that gave me very specific rights as to the comfort and care of the cat for the remainder of its life.

Once you've sold an animal, you have little backup in court if there is ever a dispute unless you are a co-owner. It also clearly indicates that, if for any reason the new owner can't keep the pet, it is to be returned to the co-owner.

Just a side note supporting the merits of co-ownership ... I didn't intend to hijack your thread.
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just because I am curious and I will probably need it in the future...what does a co-ownership contract look like?

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just because I am curious and I will probably need it in the future...what does a co-ownership contract look like?
My contracts looked just like a regular contract but were titled "Contract of Co-Ownership". It clearly defined all parties and their roles in the ownership. It should specify where the animal will live (unless certain criteria requires return to the other co-owner), who will pay for what expenses (unless certain circumstances occur), etc. A good co-ownership contract will clearly outline who is responsible for what & what happens if certain guidelines aren't met.

In the case of a show dog, you could specify that one co-owner must show a minimum of "X" number of times during a show season or return the dog to the other co-owner or it could split show responsibilities. It should specify how the dog is to be used for breeding (or not) and by whom, etc. Anything can be included in this type of contract.

It is just a tool that can be used to clearly outline the responsibility of each party as respects the future of the dog. A good contract can be a lifesaver in times of dispute. Trust me, been there ... done that ... it's not pleasant but it will stand up in court if it is properly written.
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:44 AM   #5
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just because I am curious and I will probably need it in the future...what does a co-ownership contract look like?
In AKC the papers are marked as owners- the owner and co owner with signature of breed.
Additionally I have a contract. Its the date etc sold, then signature is required the owner is aware this _--- puppy is sold under co-ownership. All breedings must be in agreement ( for show) or placement of this dog is contingent of agreement in writing of placement of this dog. In the event the __ ( owner) can not keep the dog for any reason, said dog is to be returned to the co owner at owner expense.
I also state this dog may not leave the country ( US) without written conscent of the co owner.
etc etc. I can email you my contract if you want it.

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In AKC the papers are marked as owners- the owner and co owner with signature of breed.
Additionally I have a contract. Its the date etc sold, then signature is required the owner is aware this _--- puppy is sold under co-ownership. All breedings must be in agreement ( for show) or placement of this dog is contingent of agreement in writing of placement of this dog. In the event the __ ( owner) can not keep the dog for any reason, said dog is to be returned to the co owner at owner expense.
I also state this dog may not leave the country ( US) without written conscent of the co owner.
etc etc. I can email you my contract if you want it.
that would be awsome...that way I can start to look at what I need to have a good program in advance, so that when I do finally get there, I am prepared. Thanks!

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Sorry the only way I would ever co-own would be if the breeder gave me the dog/pup. Co-ownerships can go bad so I choose not to sign one. I have not had to co-own one of my own I trust everyone of my family's that I very carefully selected. They know my contract they are notarized and fully understand what happens if contract rules are not followed.
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Co-ownership controls who has the dog- to prevent resale or bad breedings.

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Sorry the only way I would ever co-own would be if the breeder gave me the dog/pup. Co-ownerships can go bad so I choose not to sign one. I have not had to co-own one of my own I trust everyone of my family's that I very carefully selected. They know my contract they are notarized and fully understand what happens if contract rules are not followed.
I agree with you.
I would never co-own an animal cos I would have the impression that the animal is not really mine.
I actually past on a dog cos I didn't agree with the contract.I was going to get a Pyrenean shepherd but the contract said that I had to show her,at my expense and that she had the pick of the litter.I thought it wasn't fair and refused the dog.
As BratBoxer said,it can turn sour.
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I agree with you.
I would never co-own an animal cos I would have the impression that the animal is not really mine.
I actually past on a dog cos I didn't agree with the contract.I was going to get a Pyrenean shepherd but the contract said that I had to show her,at my expense and that she had the pick of the litter.I thought it wasn't fair and refused the dog.
As BratBoxer said,it can turn sour.
The dog is yours- but the breeding is not- nor who it can be sold to. You have to understand- that dog you have has parents- and bad decissions or the wrong breeding that produces dogs that are displystic etc shows on the parents as well. It also makes sure that puppy you brought into the world is not sold on 'ebay' or into a puppy mill. It protects the breeds reputation and the dogs produced.
Quite frankly- if the breeder DOES NOT want a co ownership= it really means they have no interest in protecting their lines or preventing breedings that produce dogs with major problems later. - nor care what you do with the dog should you not keep the dog for the lifetime of the dog. . Of course- understand- I am getting dogs from the best breeders that know all the other breeders lines as well- .. To prevent genetic disorders etc. And to me- co ownership also is a back up if you can not keep the dog. For whatever reason.

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