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Old 06-27-2015, 04:19 PM   #1
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I'm looking for something specific, but I haven't seem to have found it yet.

Growing up, I'd had more dogs than anyone my age should. My mom was picky. If she didn't like one thing about the dog, she wouldn't be patient or wait for the thing to go away or the dog to be trained, she'd make me rehome it on the spot. Because of this, I've to be extra picky about the animals I bring home.

If she did like the dog, we couldn't have it for more an average of a year because we moved so much, and us being in picky, old town Prescott, Arizona, many landlords didn't except dogs, so off they went.

The only dog I've had for more than a year, as far as I remember, is my current pup, Maxie, my Shih-Tzu mix. I got her when she had just turned 2 months and I had just turned 12. She could fit into the palm of my hand, it was the cutest thing. She's about to turn 6, and she's been in my possession the entire way. Thank God, because she's my best friend, my anchor, my baby. She means an awful lot, and she's been through all the tough moments of the past few years and came through stronger than ever, by my side the whole time.

However, I'm moving out in a year or so and I'll be most likely be moving into an apartment, and, because Maxie has "Small Dog Syndrome", she can't come along. Apartments are too noisy for a very vocal dog with a shrill, annoying bark who grew up in the quiet countryside, so she'll be staying in Prescott with my mother & brother when I go.

My best friend will be coming along, so it will be two young females in an apartment located in the middle of a big, busy city. In order to have a sense of home, and a form of protection, we agreed on getting a dog.

It will be more mine than hers, and, like I said, I'm very picky.

The dog must want to go out on hikes, long walks, to the lake, to the dog park, etc. but be okay not going out every day. I want an active dog when the timing's right, but lazy the rest of the time, one that will lounge around the house with me.

I want an intelligent dog, an eager to please, easy to train breed. I love, love, love training my dogs and it gets on every single one of my nerves when the dog doesn't listen. Absolutely nothing stubborn or hard headed.

I don't mind taking care of a dog's coat, doing the daily brushes, monthly baths, etc., my only concern is I will be living in a hot climate no matter where I go, as I do not deal well with cold. Southern California and Phoenix are my main choices as of right now. As much as I don't mind dealing with a heavy coat, the dog may suffer in the heat. This is also a concern for any brachycephalic (short nosed) breeds. Only breeds that can handle heat well.

The breed must also be vocal and loud with a deep bark or have strong protection instincts, or both. Two young females alone in a big city worries me, and this is one of the main reasons we decided to add a new family member.

If I end up in California, frequent trips to the beach will be a constant thing. If I end up in Phoenix, frequent trips to the lake or the river will be a constant thing, so I'm hoping for a breed that enjoys water.

I have family and friends with dogs, cats, and children. I realize that you must raise a dog with them for them to get along, but some breeds have a strong prey drive no matter what, so nothing that won't get along with everyone (not including strangers).

My biggest thing is energy levels. I know I mentioned it before, but I do not want a dog with too much energy, especially if it's a big dog. A Great Dane is a good example, except for the fact that they're too fragile for most of the activities I'm interested in.

Speaking of size, I don't want anything small. I'm looking for a protective breed, so nothing under an average of 60lbs. Bigger the better.

Also, health. Great Danes were one of first on the list of breeds I like, but the overall cost to take care of one throws me off a little. They're still on the list, but I'm super iffy about it.

I'm pretty sure I've covered everything I like and dislike, thanks for reading!

Please, if you have any breeds fitting what I'm looking for, let me know!

Edit; I'm taking some interest in the French Mastiff (Dogue De Bordeaux) and the BullMastiff. Are they the types of dogs that enjoy going to the lake/beach and on walks and/or hikes?

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I think your mum (bless her) is way too picky and sadly this has influence you in a similar way! There is no such dog breed that is self trained. so forget this idea. You will need to train any puppy/dog you may get.
Puppies are a blank canvas it's up to you to paint the picture you are after to get the type of behaviour you are looking for.Sure if you go for
a rescue/shelter dog some training may have taken place already, but often needs 'top' up training I suggest that you do much research in to this and remember patience is a virtue without this it's possible to fail
big time!If I didn't have the patience with Nipper my dog and I needed lots of it she would have been rehomed years ago!
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As you will be living in the city and probably an apartment you have to look at the fact that most have a weight or size restriction so you may find it hard to find a place if you have a big dog. Your little dog is six now so in a couple of years she is going to be 7 or 8 years old. It is going to be very hard on your dog to be rehomed after being with you all these years in fact if she means as much to you as you say, I don't know how you can get rid of her. Little dogs can be trained the same as any big dog and she can be taught to not bark all the time. Just having a big dog does not make you any safer.

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Iam sorry to hear your mum has Small Dog Syndrome can she not get any help for this condition, is it rare?? Prehaps there is a suppport group
she can get help and advice it's worth checking out Iam also concerned about Maxie if it's about a year till you move there is plenty of time to help her with her barking wether it's a device called Bark Stop
or seeking help from a behaviourist it's do able And regarding gtting a puppy will some one be at home most of the time? Or prehaps the dog can accomapny you at work in your shop? It would not be fair on the puppy to leave it for hrs on end alone! These are things you must consider. Good luck
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I think she meant her Shih Tzu has Small Dog Syndrome with is not really a "thing" but is usually just a lack of training.

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I think she meant her Shih Tzu has Small Dog Syndrome with is not really a "thing" but is usually just a lack of training.
Wasn't sure Kyllobernese either way it can be cured!!!!
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I think your mum (bless her) is way too picky and sadly this has influence you in a similar way! There is no such dog breed that is self trained. so forget this idea. You will need to train any puppy/dog you may get.
Puppies are a blank canvas it's up to you to paint the picture you are after to get the type of behaviour you are looking for.Sure if you go for
a rescue/shelter dog some training may have taken place already, but often needs 'top' up training I suggest that you do much research in to this and remember patience is a virtue without this it's possible to fail
big time!If I didn't have the patience with Nipper my dog and I needed lots of it she would have been rehomed years ago!
Yes, I realize this, the post is in regards to the breeds that have those kinds of personalities when trained properly. That's one thing I have that my mom doesn't, is patience with young, untrained dogs.

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As you will be living in the city and probably an apartment you have to look at the fact that most have a weight or size restriction so you may find it hard to find a place if you have a big dog. Your little dog is six now so in a couple of years she is going to be 7 or 8 years old. It is going to be very hard on your dog to be rehomed after being with you all these years in fact if she means as much to you as you say, I don't know how you can get rid of her. Little dogs can be trained the same as any big dog and she can be taught to not bark all the time. Just having a big dog does not make you any safer.
Maybe you didn't read correctly. I thought I said in the post that I would be buying, and I wouldn't be taking Maxie along, but I'm sure as hell not getting rid of her. My family currently lives in a cottage in the woods and she will stay there with them.

Maxie has always, always been a notorious barker. It's practically programmed into her, and it's not going anywhere, trust me. Even I got her to stop barking on command, she'd bark when I wasn't around. So, she will stay in the quiet of the woods with my mom and brother, in the element she's used to.

And, yes, I realize that, but the mere size and voice of a big dog will ward off dangerous people, and if that doesn't work, I'll look into personal protection training. I have thought this all through.

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Iam sorry to hear your mum has Small Dog Syndrome can she not get any help for this condition, is it rare?? Prehaps there is a suppport group
she can get help and advice it's worth checking out Iam also concerned about Maxie if it's about a year till you move there is plenty of time to help her with her barking wether it's a device called Bark Stop
or seeking help from a behaviourist it's do able And regarding gtting a puppy will some one be at home most of the time? Or prehaps the dog can accomapny you at work in your shop? It would not be fair on the puppy to leave it for hrs on end alone! These are things you must consider. Good luck
Kyllobernese is right, I meant Maxie has Small Dog Syndrome. I don't know if it's a real thing, or just a joke, but it's a "condition" that makes all dogs similar to chihuahuas. Easily scared, yappy, shaky, snappy. Maxie's not snappy but she's very vocal and seeks comfort in me if she's not comfortable with a situation. I'm almost positive she has Chihuahua in her.

It would be doable, but I feel like she would be happier left home with my family regardless, instead of being uprooted and creating a new life with me being the only thing she recognizes.

Yes, the pup will be in training almost everyday at the shop so it will learn how to behave in a work situation as it grows. Even on the days I couldn't bring the puppy along, I would find a dog sitter or take the pup to a doggy daycare.

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I think she meant her Shih Tzu has Small Dog Syndrome with is not really a "thing" but is usually just a lack of training.
Maxie is actually very well trained, thank you very much. She's very intelligent and obedient a majority of the time. She knows over 150 vocal commands & words/phrases, and around 50 hand motions. She can walk off leash at a heel in any situation and stay where she's supposed to, regardless of where we are or what she sees. Took me a year and a half but it was done, and it's pretty damn hard, especially if you don't go to a professional. She was potty trained in two days, and has only had 6 accidents inside since then, and they were just that, accidents. She sulked for hours afterwards because she knew she wasn't supposed to.

She's more intelligent than any other dog I have met, her notorious barking habits are the only thing I have trouble getting over. I can talk to her as if she were a person and she understands me completely. Please, without meeting her, don't assume I haven't trained my dog. She's essentially a 6 year old child with 4 legs and fur. She's the best trained dog I know personally, and I'm not ashamed to shout out that it was me who has made her into the dog she is today.


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