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Old 03-12-2013, 01:24 PM   #1
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Default GSD, American Alsatians, King Shepherds and Shilohs

Hello everybody. Allow me a question out of pure curiosity, since it doesn't look like I'll be able to afford a dog in the near future, as much as I'd like to have one.


What are your thoughts on American Alsatians, Shiloh- and King shepherds? as I understand, all of those breeds are more companion than working dogs and therefore need less exercise, since I am an academic (in Iceland at the moment) with a rather sedentary life in the city, a dog with not much need for exercise would be the one I would be most interested in.


I can already see that the obvious solution would rather be a small dog, but the experience that I have with a Yorkshire Terrier and a Dwarf Schnauzer (my aunts' dogs) left me with a certain dissatisfaction with small dogs, they were both extremely nevrotic. Plus, when I was a toddler I had a large German Shepherd, and my stereotypical image of a dog is vaguely GSD shaped and large at that. Hence the ineterst in the above breeds.


As it's a theoretical question at the moment, I'm not interested in comments like "they are just very expensive mutts". The way I see it, the traits of any pure breed were selected amongst different dogs and bred specifically at one point or the other in history. I am interested in personal experience with any of the above mentioned breeds, their health, need for exercise and how well they can do alone, if needed (not that I'd plan to have a dog and then leave it all by itself, what's the point of having one, then? but some times I might be busier than usual and have less time for the need of a dog, guess just as everybody else, really... the fact is, I don't have children, a girlfriend or a wife to give attention to a dog if I have little time).



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Hi Samur welcome to Df GSD's, Alsations and King Shepherds A.F.A.I.K need quite a lot of excercise and need to have lots of stimulation like playing etc So do some research on these breeds if you haven't done already Probably a good breed would be a Greyhound a retired racer mght be a good contender one you can walk round the block and they are satisfied!
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To my knowledge, the term Aslation came from during the World War, where the British did not want to call the dogs German Shepherds and therefor changed the name. Later, they changed it back to German Shepherd Dog. So nothing should have changed but the actual name. As for King Shepherds, it should mostly just be a variation in size; in that they pride in having larger shepherds than the average. I don't believe this affects the temperament however. As Bigboy notes, The GSD needs a good walk, and are very smart, but if they get that physical activity, make great companions and can even be apartment dogs (granted you don't mind heavy shedding either). A retired greyhound racer is an excellent idea as well!
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thanks everybody for the replies,

As I mentioned, when I was a little child we had a big pedigree GSD, my father had long yet flexible working hours, but my mum was home from work at 16:00. We had a garden, that was the doggy's playground (my dad didn't even consider trying to turn it into a proper garden until after the dog died) where he could chase lizards or dig holes as he pleased. As I was 4 when he died, I don't remember much apart from a vague picture of him laying about the kitchen's door, but my parents have more anecdotes about me and Brix (that was the name) of those 4 years than about the 40 years they have been married...they all point to the great companion trait, that's probably why I called my dog with my first word rather than my mum or dad ;P

As I said before, it was a question posed out of curiosity more than anything else. We'll see what direction my life will take in the next years and what kind of dwelling I'll be able to afford and what time I'll have (with "little exercise" I never meant that I wouldn't want to give the dog the deserved twice-a day walk or play with him...heck, what would I want a dog for otherwise? I mainly meant that I am not in a workfieldwhere I could have the dog with me 24/7, but then again, most people don't). I'd rather have no dog than having one and not treating him/her properly. I never considered an older dog simply because we had also a Golden Retriever some years ago, that some bastard abandoned because she had got Leishmaniasis (or however you spell it). She was the sweetest thing, but I always had the impression that she was quite never "our dog" so to speak. ...then again, it might just have been abandonemnt issues...

About the all Alsatian/GSD thingie, I know that Alsatian and GSD are the same thing, but I was speaking about American Alsatians, once known as the "Shepalute" (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/a/americanalsatian.htm). What I have read is that they most GSD owners consider them big "couch-potatoes".

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At the end of the day though any breed will need some excersise just like we do! Same goes for training all breeds need training and socialistion with other dogs and people to a deny a dog that is serious IMO. House rules are important too
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Of course, as I said, I wouldn't even want to get a dog if not in the right conditions...and about the exercise...actually a dog would also help ME move more, which would be just as good.
eheh...I push a lot tiwh the above mentioned breeds, simply becase in my mind a dog is large, and quite GSD-shaped, otherwise it's not a dog ...I might not remember much, but I guess my childhood's dog stuck in my subcoscious;P

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Of course, as I said, I wouldn't even want to get a dog if not in the right conditions...and about the exercise...actually a dog would also help ME move more, which would be just as good.
eheh...I push a lot tiwh the above mentioned breeds, simply becase in my mind a dog is large, and quite GSD-shaped, otherwise it's not a dog ...I might not remember much, but I guess my childhood's dog stuck in my subcoscious;P
Well that would be a bonus too He he well I think you will find that dogs come in many disgiuses now and all sizes too So there's a huge choice out there!
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I know having a dog helps me get out for walks on days otherwise I might not get out. They are a great motivator!
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