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Old 08-30-2010, 02:36 PM   #1
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Default Guardian vs Herders

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Are guardian breeds also herders or vice versa?

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Old 08-30-2010, 06:38 PM   #2
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I'll say no.

It is important to understand the distinction between herding dogs and guarding dogs. Herding dogs (border collies, Australian shepherds, and others) move sheep from one area to another by biting, chasing, or barking at the sheep. Herding dogs work accor ding to signals (verbal and hand) from a handler, and they are generally not left alone with the sheep. Guarding dogs usually do not herd sheep, are discouraged from biting, chasing, and barking at sheep, and act independently of people. (Also see section on “Interactions Between Herding and Guarding Dogs.”)
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I would have to say no, officially. But mine keep an eye on the house and yard to insure that no "unauthorized" people enter without being announced.

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Of course, these are somewhat arbitrary labels, IMO, because ultimately all dogs come from animals that used both traits to feed and protect the pack.

Ming is not officially in either group. But psychologically and behaviorally he is both.

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I know you are refering to the post the man said earlier that it was a herding instinct and no it isnt. That is a common behavior in a a big pup that wants to play and is practicing prey/hunt/attack. I have seen the same one in many many overexciteable dogs. He needs to learn self control as well the command leave it. It will be tough on you but that will be the only way. Usually as he gets older and gets an appropiate tell off (likely hard bit maybe even blood drawn) will probably make him get the message. Try to stop it before it gets to that though. That can make them enemies forever.. the big one needs redirection to something else..
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