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Old 08-02-2009, 05:49 AM   #1
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Hello, im Jonas and at the moment i dont have any dogs, but in a week or so I am getting one, Ive been looking around, knowing that Border collies are what i want, but because I'm young my parents get a big say in the matter. They want to get a border collie too but they say that Pedigree's don't live as long, if it is a cross bread then apparently they live for a couple of years longer, is this true?

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Old 08-02-2009, 06:20 AM   #2
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Hello Jonas.f Welcome aboard to DF I don't think that therory is completely true! Sure some pedigree breeds do have genetic problems which could effect the life of a dog. Now on to the very important stuff.
Are your parents going to help you with choosing and training your dog?
As I think this would be a good idea and greatly improve the dog's chances of turning out in to a well balanced family pet. I take you go still go to school? A dog will need lots of time ( even more so when a puppy) investing in it's development. It's very hard work and can really drain your energy. Then there's the money side of looking after and bringing up a dog. For it's food, health, insurance, toys, extras! If done right a dog will make a faithful loyal, loving family pet. Do you think you can cope with this? So if the answer is yes then great But have a good think about it and discuss it wilh your mum/dad and maybe invite them to the forum too
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Hi Jonas and welcome to the forum!

How nice that you are getting a dog! And good for you doing your research!

I don't think there is strong evidence either way to be able to say that mixes are healthier than purebreds or vice versa. It all comes down to the genes and history of the parents. A responsible breeder will take care to breed only healthy dogs and not have any animals in their breeding program that have shown a predisposition to genetically inherited diseases. Mixed breeds are generally bred because someone made a mistake or simply allowed two animals to mate willy-nilly with no health tests.

Whatever you do, if you get a puppy from a breeder, insist on seeing vet records and proof of health testing (for hips and eyes at the very least) from both parents. Anyone who cannot show you that proof is someone you don't want to get a dog from unless you are prepared for health problems down the road.

Good luck whatever you decide!

PS I moved this to the section for discussion of dog breeds so it should get more answers for you.
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She is going to be a family pet, very much so, we have had a bordercollie/springerspaniel a few years ago, but then i never really appreciated her, and when in the months that i did enjoy taking her on walks and grooming her and feeding her ext. she had to be put down because she was turning really blind and couldn't judge anything, so she was constantly hurting herself, eating too much, and pooing in the house all over the place.
I have been persuading my parents to get into wanting a dog again so I have discused it alot about them. We can certainly afford it, and because i am in the summer holidays, as a puppy i can give her alot of attention . Obviously i still go to school but when i start a school again, it probably wont be a puppy.
The thing about a pedigree and a cross breed, well when we had our crossbread she lived for 14 years or more and when my parrents have had pedigrees then they have only really lived for 10 - 11 years.
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Thankyou very much for your comment skunkstripe and for moveing my post=] im probably getting my dog from here. http://www.pets4homes.co.uk/pets4hom...D?OpenDocument this site was recomended by a friend who got a chocolate-labradoodle from there called lilly, he lives down the road from me and i usualy take her out for a walk with him, she is very friendly but also very rough, which i do not mind, but my friend is getting a bit anoyed with, for he gets an awful amount of bad scratches, and nibble marks. She is only 8months old but i really like her (sorry bit off topic =/.)

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Don't apologise I think this a thing you are going to have to really think about ( I sympathise with your friend) and his very rough dog he is quite correct about being annoyed about this and I am afraid he will need help to get his dog to behave better. And even though you don't mind this behaviour in a dog you too will need to excersise control when you too get a dog it isn't acceptable really and can only cause problems later on! I have a question. You say you can give a lot of a attention to a puppy ( and that's good!) and when you start school again it probably won't be a puppy ?? When you do go back to school in a few weeks time! A puppy is a puppy for quite a long time even 6 months down the line it's still a puppy
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Oh right sorry i didn't know that, how ever i can still give it plently of attention, even on school days, by the way can you give walks to a puppy, if not what age?
Oh, and if i get a bordercollie i can certainly give it lots of walks in the summer, but in the winter, i may be starting my GSCE's early meaning i may only be able to walk it maybe one a day, due to how dark it would be getting, and how little time i would have, due to homework etc., would this be a problem for the dog? And if we could find a cross bread of a border collie would this help in anyway?

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Oh right sorry i didn't know that, how ever i can still give it plently of attention, even on school days, by the way can you give walks to a puppy, if not what age?
Oh, and if i get a bordercollie i can certainly give it lots of walks in the summer, but in the winter, i may be starting my GSCE's early meaning i may only be able to walk it maybe one a day, due to how dark it would be getting, and how little time i would have, due to homework etc., would this be a problem for the dog? And if we could find a cross bread of a border collie would this help in anyway?
That's ok I think your mum and a dad are going to have to get involved on helping you to look after a dog as it will need more than one walk a day as it could cause problems like having too much uptight energy that hasn't dispersed due to little excercise. 'A tired dog is a happy dog!' If your mum and dad are prepared to help then fine if not then this cause problems later on which woudn't be fair on the dog. Stick around Jonas as I feel you need more advice and we can help you
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Hi there!
I got a border collie pup when I was 15, and she's still fit and well now aged 14! Border collies are actually known for being quite long-lived. My dog coped very well with sometimes only one walk a day while I was in school, as long as she got play time in the garden too. Good luck with your dog, whatever you and your parents decide.
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Puppies can certainyl go on walks, but they shouldn't sy try to run next to you while you're riding a bicycle. And even if it gets dark early, they still need exercise. Dogs don't even notice the dark the way that we do as they are better equipped to see in the dark.

I have a headlamp I wear in winter when taking my dogs through the woods in the evening. They enjoy the walks and the headlamp puts me on an equal footing with them as far as being able to see.
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