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Old 04-15-2009, 09:07 PM   #1
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I have a staff bitch, pictured. In Liverpool the pitbull is a popular dog among gangs and my dog is from the Liverpool area and not much is known about the breeder and i never saw the parents. My dog attacked my mums Yorkshire Terrier while i was out, the dog is ok but was a little shacken from the incident. People often ask me what breed my dog is and am under the impression she is a staff, but now she is growing she looks bigger than a staff and her head is a differant shape than staffs. should i go the vets and ask if she is a pitbull or even inbred. If the behaviour continues i will see about her going to my dads place in the countryside away from other dogs.

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I have a staff bitch, pictured. In Liverpool the pitbull is a popular dog among gangs and my dog is from the Liverpool area and not much is known about the breeder and i never saw the parents. My dog attacked my mums Yorkshire Terrier while i was out, the dog is ok but was a little shacken from the incident. People often ask me what breed my dog is and am under the impression she is a staff, but now she is growing she looks bigger than a staff and her head is a differant shape than staffs. should i go the vets and ask if she is a pitbull or even inbred. If the behaviour continues i will see about her going to my dads place in the countryside away from other dogs.

I wouldn't ask your vet at all, about weather she has pit bull in her, as she could be taken away and PTS under the dangerous dogs act.

aggression is 9 time out of 10 the way the dog is bralt up, not the breed, there are many pit bull terriers in the USA that are fantasticly behaved and no agrression at all.

You need to look at your dogs behaviour and if there is something wrong with your training find ways to sort her out.
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I have a staff bitch, pictured. In Liverpool the pitbull is a popular dog among gangs and my dog is from the Liverpool area and not much is known about the breeder and i never saw the parents. My dog attacked my mums Yorkshire Terrier while i was out, the dog is ok but was a little shacken from the incident. People often ask me what breed my dog is and am under the impression she is a staff, but now she is growing she looks bigger than a staff and her head is a differant shape than staffs. should i go the vets and ask if she is a pitbull or even inbred. If the behaviour continues i will see about her going to my dads place in the countryside away from other dogs.
If you can't control her then I would rehome her, but not mention about what you think about her breed, as this could be a death sentence to her allready, or attract the wrong people even more then her being a staff could, but staffs and PBs are both bred from fighting dogs, I would not leave her alone with other dogs when you are out, do you even know the full story of what happened when you was out, any dog could of started anything. When people ask you what breed she is just say staffs, staffs can vary dramicitally in the way they look.

I would take her to training, but do be considerate to the fact that staffs and PBs come from the same background, both dogs were used as fighting dogs and are simalar. Unless there is always someone there who can be there to supervise the dogs fairly, watch each dogs behaviour and if neccasarry break up any fights I wouldn't leave them together when there are people there or not.

But on a serious note I do think that if you have a dog that you can't control even with training or is not suited to you, even after you have tried all you can through training, getting someone who can look after the dogs when you are not there, or crate training then it is more fair on the dog to rehome them to someone who is more use to the breed or type of dog in question, as then both you and the dog can benefit from this, also remember that you never saw her parents, you don't know what they were like, do you know how the puppies were treated when they were being brought up? as this will affect them, right from birth their personality and the way that they are treated affects them. Good luck with everything though
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The vet isn't going to be able to tell you anyway, without a very complex blood analysis it's impossible to determine staff/pit in such a young dog.

As Chaz has said, there is a crossover and 'pitbull' is used as a generic term under UK law to describe anything with characteristics of the pitbull terrier, there's no definitive breed like there is in the states.

This is not to say all pitbulls are going to be dangerous, as our US members with them have proven it is not the breed it is how they are brought up. However, any breed with a fighting lineage or who is born from aggressive parents is more likely to grow up aggressive to start with, so training etc is more important.

Don't leave your pup unsupervised with other dogs and seek some advice.

If you don't feel you can cope then rehoming is an option, but only to someone responsible and knowledgeable about the breeds. Is she your first dog of your own?

Staffs/bullies of any type are blockheaded and need a firm but fair hand, I look after a staffy and she's a lovely dog and gentle as a lamb with people but even she has a shorter fuse with other dogs than my other breeds do, it's something you have to be aware of if you choose to have one as your pet.
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If you can't control her then I would rehome her, but not mention about what you think, as then she may be pts, but staffs and PBs are both bred from fighting dogs, I would not leave her alone with other dogs when you are out, do you even know the full story of what happened when you was out, any dog could of started anything. When people ask you what breed she is just say staffs, staffs can vary dramicitally in the way they look.

I would take her to training, but do be considerate to the fact that staffs and PBs come from the same background, both dogs were used as fighting dogs and are simalar. Unless there is always someone there who can be there to supervise the dogs fairly, watch each dogs behaviour and if neccasarry break up any fights I wouldn't leave them together.

But on a serious note I do think that if you have a dog that you can't control even with training or is not suited to you, even after you have tried all you can through training, getting someone who can look after the dogs when you are not there, or crate training then it is more fair on the dog to rehome them to someone who is more use to the breed or type of dog in question, as then both you and the dog can benefit from this, also remember that you never saw her parents, you don't know what they were like, do you know how the puppies were treated when they were being brought up? as this will affect them, right from birth their personality and the way that they are treated affects them. Good luck with everything though
Chaz Sorry I disagree with your opening paragraph. The dogs has issues and will still have issues if it's rehomed So the fact that it's attacked another dog should be mentioned as the same thing could easily happen again under new owner ship then the new owner may do exactly the same as you and the dog would either be rehomed again or PTS. The best thing to do is like Chaz says get some professional help and try and turn this dog around. I bought a staffy 15 months ago ok I didn't see the father but saw the mother and my girl has so far no agression issues and is only socialised with friendly dogs that i have come to know I introduced this morning Nipper to a 11 week old king Charles Cavilier. Can you imagine it such a small puppy would not stand a chance with a aggressive staffy. But Nipper was wagging tail and being nice to the 11 week old puppy sniffing it and even a few licks on it
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Chaz Sorry I disagree with your opening paragraph. The dogs has issues and will still have issues if it's rehomed So the fact that it's attacked another dog should be mentioned as the same thing could easily happen again under new owner ship then the new owner may do exactly the same as you and the dog would either be rehomed again or PTS. The best thing to do is like Chaz says get some professional help and try and turn this dog around. I bought a staffy 15 months ago ok I didn't see the father but saw the mother and my girl has so far no agression issues and is only socialised with friendly dogs that i have come to know I introduced this morning Nipper to a 11 week old king Charles Cavilier. Can you imagine it such a small puppy would not stand a chance with a aggressive staffy. But Nipper was wagging tail and being nice to the 11 week old puppy sniffing it and even a few licks on it

What I meant is how she thinks that she is a pitbull.
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Chaz yes I realise that but should RBX13 mention that it has attacked another dog that's what I was driving at if RBX 13 was going to rehome this dog? It's still young enough to be turned around in to a well behaved dog. If the work is put in.
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Absolutely Dave, if the dog is rehomed then of course honesty is of paramount importance

I think what Chaz means is what I mentioned in my previous post - rehoming to someone with experience of handling a bull breed with this type of personality would probably sort the dog out - the problem is inexperience coupled with a tendency for aggression. The dog is so young i'm sure it can be sorted out with the right handler, or with the right help from a professional for the current owner.
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RBX do you have a upto date pic of Roxie face wise? Cheers
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Absolutely Dave, if the dog is rehomed then of course honesty is of paramount importance

I think what Chaz means is what I mentioned in my previous post - rehoming to someone with experience of handling a bull breed with this type of personality would probably sort the dog out - the problem is inexperience coupled with a tendency for aggression. The dog is so young i'm sure it can be sorted out with the right handler, or with the right help from a professional for the current owner.
Yes thats what I mean Mel
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