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Old 01-11-2009, 12:25 AM   #1
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Ok, a number of you know I work at a rather large and varied daycare group on a day to day basis. Standing back and looking at the group I have made some observations that have led me to wonder what's really going on!

One of the biggest things I have noted is almost every Lab we get (and we get LOTS of Labs!), be it male or female, young or old, yellow/chocolate/black is a complete social knucklehead! They repeatedly shove their noses into other dogs personal space despite being clearly told by the other dog to knock it off. They ram themselves into objects in ballistic runs. In general they just don't seem to be speaking the same lingo as the rest of the breeds.

What I am wondering, as I have never owned a Lab, is whether this is a trend of their breeding, are they intentionally bred for this uber happy mode? Or is this more of a sign of people under-socializing their dogs as pups? But if this is the case why is it significantly more noticible in Labs? This breed is described on websites as being mellow and easily trainable. What I am seeing is a bunch of spring loaded spazzers who have zero leash ettiquette! The other potential is of course that because they are soooo popular they are suffering from over-breeding.

The other ones that seem to be sending crossed signals are the Golden Retrievers. I have noted a good number of this breed sending VERY mixed signals! Loose wriggly body, with wide-half moon eyes, and a bark that sounds like they're gonna rip to shreds anything in front of them!

Are these isolated trends to this area? Or is there something greater to this? Any other breeds with odd quirks noted? I hope this builds into an interesting discussion on individual breed behaviors!
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My Coco is a purebred lab - she's not like that. However, tons of dogs, not just Labs, at the shelter do that. Macey is a Lab/GSP X - she's nose up butt instantly on a new dog. Coco had a bad experience once with another dog - so she is forever leery.

Generally speaking - IMO, the breeding of Labs has gone down the tubes. They're almost all in your face hyper super destructive things anymore.
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I dont think it helps that their puppy phase last so long either. They are just plain goofy past the point most dogs would have calmed down abit. The nicest ones Ive met have been sensible old things,(old being the operative word!!).

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I have noticed that the dogs most likely to get told off by my collie for being rudely over friendly are labs
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draco I'll go with you on Labs (and Golden for that matter) being happy-go-lucky goofballs who don't quite understand why the other dogs are mad at them. It's a trait which i think makes them great as family dogs, because the flip side is that little kids can pull their ears, yank their tails, ride on them like ponies and they not only don't mind, they seem to enjoy the attention. OK I am generalizing and simplifying, but I think there is some truth to it. Labbies and Goldens are not for those who like aloof dogs or indepndent dogs.

If you have a bunch of retrievers together, it usually works out fine. But if you have more genteel dogs they easily get ticked off at the retrievers and give them what-for.
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LOL! Well, it looks like my observation might have some merit after all. I had noticed Ash tends to focus his efforts in the playgroup 'redirecting' the plethora of Labs we have. He spends much less energy on the other breeds as a whole.

Catz, you mention the older ones being calmed down a bit, to be honest I have not seen much difference between the yearlings and the seniors, save maybe available energy. The older ones still try!

The biggest thing that has me scratching my head over Labs being regarded as such good family dogs is that along with them 'not caring' and just letting it happen, a LOT of these decent sized dogs become ballistic missiles launching themselves across the room to slam into another dog, a human, a table...etc. I myself have come close to being knocked over, I can't imagine how far a kid could be thrown if collided into by a ballistic Labby missile! Ooooh, there goes little Billy!
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Labs are the dopiest of the dog world lol, they are so mad crazy and loveable, but not the dog that I would want, they are too mad
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LOL! Well, it looks like my observation might have some merit after all. I had noticed Ash tends to focus his efforts in the playgroup 'redirecting' the plethora of Labs we have. He spends much less energy on the other breeds as a whole.

Catz, you mention the older ones being calmed down a bit, to be honest I have not seen much difference between the yearlings and the seniors, save maybe available energy. The older ones still try!

The biggest thing that has me scratching my head over Labs being regarded as such good family dogs is that along with them 'not caring' and just letting it happen, a LOT of these decent sized dogs become ballistic missiles launching themselves across the room to slam into another dog, a human, a table...etc. I myself have come close to being knocked over, I can't imagine how far a kid could be thrown if collided into by a ballistic Labby missile! Ooooh, there goes little Billy!

Im sorry Im still grinning at the picture in my head... I see little Billy being tackled by a labby missile and goes flyyyyying over a fieldgoal post...

My head is too animated..

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I agree Charlie, I like a dog that learns fast, guards me and that people are kinda intimadated about. When I walk, I need not worry about anybody grabbing me, not that anybody would want me, but might want my wad of money, tee hee.
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Lol Pat, but if you want a dog that will lick someone to death and try to be that persons friend get a Lab lol, I've only met one that didn't want to be everyones friend. But i do find them a bit OTT sometimes. I like my dogs, they are calm and behave, still want to be people's friends, but will hold back, and Diesel will guard me if needs be, but he has calmed down a bit from that.
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