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Old 12-16-2008, 07:35 PM   #1
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hi there, my partner and i have reacently been looking for a puppy to join our family(myself,my partner and our 4yr old daughter),i myself have been used to rotties and staffies as i grew up and my partner and i used to have a ridgeback who passed away last year,we're very hot on our dog training and ability to demonstrate who is leader of the pack.as i'm sure your all aware, rotties and ridgebacks are very head strong breeds(but then any breed can be if you let it!)
now the thing is...we have seen the most beautiful pup and we're really wanting her to come and join our family some time after xmas(when she's ready to leave mum and completed jabs ect) but she is a rottie cross doberman.now i do not know anybody with a doberman and although i got a fair bit on information about the breed from the owner(mum was the dobie and dad was the rottie, both of which were lovely natured and friendly) i obviously know that opinions are all very varied and i have been on the net for the last 2 hours researching the breed...i was just wondering, other than what the internet says, if anybody has ever owned a rottie cross dobie??if so it would be really great to have your opinion.
also my daughter is very grown up for her age and loves to watch dog whisperer with me and is very respectful towards dogs and knows never to force herself and to let them come to her, otherwise i wouldn't be getting any dog at all, let alone a large guarding type breed!
thanks for reading and i look forward to a response!

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Old 12-16-2008, 08:41 PM   #2
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Dobie is very different from rottie...

A trainer I know used to call rotties for doberman diesels...

I have had a doberman, I have now a rott cross, and I recently adopted out a rott.

Dobermans are more velcro indoors, but usually take bigger laps around you outdoors.
Most rotts I know you can basically let them off the lead and they will walk next to you like they never done anything else. The dobermans are usually more reactive..


again depending on breeding and lineage...

They are def more sensitive, where a rott is stubborn and you poke it on the butt, a dobermann might distance itself much more. You need to be a real motivator and build on the bond..

I don't even really belive in the pack theory and I only deal with these sorts of dog personally, commonly also aggressive ones on top of that. So I use motivation and consistensy on most dogs which works very well so far..

But dobies I would say is a bit in comparasion to arabians in the horseworld..

Meanwhile I would say the rotts are like a good ol' clydesdale..

Oh and be prepared if you get a whiner... they do whistle/whining sounds through their nose when they get impatient, wants attention, frustrated or excirted.. They sound like a teapot.

My neighbour havbe a pit/dob/rott/lab cross, and he is more dob and rott in his behaviors than pitbull. I have only walked him like 20 times and worked with him but I can walk him offlead and he's so obedient. But he is agile like the dobie and more of it in body shape... He listens to me better than my neighbour even *lol*

Also onet hing that can happens, is that you get twice the guard and sometimes with an anxy touch, I have meet a couple of them, so I would say socialice extra much, just to make him harmonic with people in average. If both parents are calm dogs chances are the pup will be of good genetic mass but since he is a mix there is no guarantees.

The dobie I had went through 11 homes and severe abuse, he was stil steady and reliable around humans. his grandma scored 300 out of 300 on the choronation test we have in Sweden. SHe is so far the only female doberman in our country ever scoring that, extremly stable dog.. but he was still a big velcro pup...

Oh and they are lapdogs...

Good luck with your dog and Im looking forward to PUPPYPICS!!
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Old 12-17-2008, 09:57 AM   #3
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hi monkey, thanks for your reply...
i understand they are far more clingy of you indoors and the big big needto heavily socialise them,i have also read a few peoplesopinions that they are too nervy and jumpy to be aroung children(something which i have noticed almost ever dobie owner has dissagreed with), i guess besides the obvious things they require which seems tobe something pretty much everyone is in agreement with, what woukd you say they were like with children?obviously being a "dog person" i have taught my daughter how to approach a dog(or not approach, ie-hold your hand out for a sniff and then let them come to you if they like you after said sniff and to leave them be if they walk away not interested).obviously i'd never leave a child alone with any dog but i am used to rotties, ridgebacks and staffys which are all very family, child orientated dogs.i guess i'm only slightly hesitant on this pup as i've never had any personal experience on the breed and no amount of websites can prepare you.plus on top of that the biggest issue is i don't know what trait this pup will carry more,the rotie or the dobie...the boy pups seemed to resemble the rottie dad and the girls seem to take after their dobie mummy...but would her looking like more of a dobie means she acts like one?
i guess what i really need to know is if it is a risk worth taking or even a risk at all in tems of breed suitability to my family home.there are enough dogs in rescue homes as it is without me ever having to add to the large growing number becuase i didn't get my facts right.
the breeder said they make great family pets and has a 10yr old daughter but then i am aware some breeders will say anything(although this guy was very friendly and answered ever question with no problem)
also the dad rottie is a trained guard dog at the breeders place of work but a family pet when at home...would this have any part to play in the little gilr pups ultimate personality?
sorry so many questions...i just have so many of them going round in my head!lol

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They can be more nervy, I would say those are due cause of poor breeding more than the breed itself. My dobie was excellent with kids, all dobies I know have been excellent with kids. Yeah they have knocked them over once in a while, but that is almost unavoidable.

Only thing is you have to train the give on toys and bones and food bowls...

Anyone can take anything from my dogs, and I prefer it that way..

I would say since the pup will be raised with the child there wont be a problem other than regular puppy nips, and to teach them BOTH to respect one another...

and no, just cause they look like it dont mean they act like it..

My dog look like a gigantic shar pei but she behaves like a rottweiler 80% of the time.. once in a while the shar peis hesitance with strangers come out (they are very wary of strangers), and she refuse to go up to someone. Usually they are drunk/high overbearing person so.. it don't really surprise me anyhow...

if it had been a big dog I would have been more worried about mixing dog/child, but here and both parents are calm and cuddly you say, oddses are that as long as you two train the dog, socialise it and make good family bonds that you will have little to no problems except the puppy nipping, and such.

I wouldn't worry... only thing is, do not be too harsh, dobies are more sensitive than rotts.

Just do everything as you should, with puppy classes, tons of socialisation, trading game to teach the pup to give stuff, build up the bond, clicker is usually very good with dobies since they are very clever and so is rotts if yet a tad slower...

That also builds confidence and will make the dog in general paying more attention to you.. You do all that I highly doubt you will add on to the rescue group. The breed is not a problem with kids as any dog, its the breeders more than anything...

Examples shar peis are infamous for being snippy, at shows, the judge are NOT to touch the mouth, the only one showing the shar pei's teeth is the owner. The breeder of my accidental mix was a breeder of shar peis and rotts, she took pride in that her shar peis could be handled by anyone, any judge could check her dogs teeth and her 4 year old Evelina was all over them dogs.. and Tasha is just as stable as both her parents...

So I say go ahead as long as you are prepare to do the work
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