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Old 11-17-2008, 01:48 PM   #1
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Default Breed Clubs Have a Responsibility, So Why Are They NOT Promoting Health?

I found this article and found it interesting.

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If anyone looks at the Kennel Club website for a puppy they are advised to look at individual breed clubs for help in receiving the right puppy. This is excellent advice. If only it were true.
You see, I have scanned over 20 breed clubs this week after viewing Pedigree Dogs Exposed and
I am very disappointed that the KC are not policing breed clubs more effectively, after all itís the KC who approve these clubs.
http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/...moting-health/
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I personally feel reading book and magazines to learn what is good about a breed and what runs bad in the breed. Clubs is all about money at least our AKC is. They are most willing to assist in filling out any papers, such as DNA has gone up to $50.00 I have my males done.

Anything else they say they have NO control over and much as said, could care less. People need to form clubs and members loyal to dogs and give meetings appointing a person for a special breed a month then lecture or give demos and explanations of the breed in question.

People or member would learn alot more that way as the person assigned for the month to do a session on a special breed would study and hunt to give a good demo. We did that on hourses having local clubs to join to learn different things, helping youths also. Big register clubs do not care only that they receive the money.
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Before you get too wrapped up in the idea of the need for the KC "policing" the breed clubs, do your own research. Don't rely on one biased article

Examine the individual parent club websites for yourself. See what each one is actually doing toward health research and the welfare of that particular breed. I'm quite sure you'll find many more excellent ones than you will the ones she found to single out.


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Well of course nothing is perfect, perfect doesn't exist, never has never will, no matter what people say, but like Shep says there are some that only care about the money, and that will never be good for the dogs. People are always learning, and I do wonder how many experts on a breed a told something that they didn't know by a novice, because nobody is perfect, and no-one will know everything, but the bigger people tell the truth, and if they don't know something they should admit to it. But breed clubs that are lying need to be exposed, as people will go to them for advice, and might make a judgement on what dog to get by what the breed club says, and the health of dogs is important.
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Well he was not looking very far ...

Here is a few breed code of ethics and relevervent info ... took me all of 10mins!!!

Boxer breed council...all heart scoring of will be published on the list.
http://www.boxerbreedcouncil.co.uk/health.htm

Flatcoat retriever..code of eithcs

http://www.flatcoated-retriever-soci...ent/view/91/2/

Boxer... heaht issues

http://www.dibridboxers.co.uk/HEALTH-IN-THE-BOXER

Hungarian Vizsla
http://www.hungarianvizslaclub.org.uk/join_hvc.htm


Lancashire Heeler:
http://www.lancashireheelerowners.co.uk/pdfs/SLHO%20Ethics.pdf

Chihuahua (long coat and short coat):
http://www.the-british-chihuahua-club.org.uk/AboutUs/CodeEthics.php

Welsh Pembroke Corgi:
http://www.sunshinepwcc.com/PDF/spwcccoe062007.pdf

Portuguese Podengo:
http://www.podengos.org/CODE-OF-ETHICS

Schnauzer:
http://www.schnauzerclub.co.uk/about.shtml

Tibetan Mastiff:
http://www.tmcgb.net/page11.html

Tibetan Terrier:
http://www.ttboc.co.uk/theclub/forms/breederapplication.pdf

All Dachshund:
http://www.dachshundclub.co.uk/Membership/rules_and_regs.htm#Code%20of%20Ethics

Cardigan Welsh Corgi:
http://www.cardiganwelshcorgiassoc.co.uk/code_of_ethics.php

Bichon Frise:
Kennel club code of ethics

Estrela Mountain Dog:
http://www.emda-online.com/download.php?view.22 (needs downloading)

French Bulldog:
www.frenchbulldogclubofengland.org/Resources/FBCE_Documents_ethics.pdf

Havanese:
http://www.havaneseclub.co.uk/ethics.htm

Keeshond:
http://www.keeshondclub.org.uk/html/code_of_ethics.html

Old English Sheepdog:
http://www.oesclubofscotland.co.uk/WebConstitution.htm (Scroll down)


All dogs hip scores will or should be on the pups 5 gen pedigree...
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I cannot get the link to open so cannot read the article but based on my experience in pedigree dogs and breed clubs I am inclined to go with Applesmom and I too think you should do your own research.
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What better way to learn can there possibly be than by joining and becoming involved with a breed club?

Breed clubs are a wealth of information and are always available to the public for information regarding the breed. Almost every breed club also now has a website filled with valuable information on the breed.

As far as money and the kennel clubs go, at least they put the money earned from their services back into the welfare of dogs.

I've met many breeders over the years who are breeding pets only and gripe constantly about the Kennel club and their fees. Yet they continue to register their dogs for no other reason than to be able to sell them for more money. The exact same reason puppy mills register their dogs.

I've yet to see any of those breeders put any of the money from their puppy sales into the future welfare of all purebred dogs like the kennel clubs do.
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There will be good clubs like the ones that Boxerpups said. But the bad ones need sorting out, and the only way to really do that is to expose them, if there not exposed then they will carry on with no-one knowing and people who don't know any better will listen to them causing more problems.
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What better way to learn can there possibly be than by joining and becoming involved with a breed club?

Breed clubs are a wealth of information and are always available to the public for information regarding the breed. Almost every breed club also now has a website filled with valuable information on the breed.

As far as money and the kennel clubs go, at least they put the money earned from their services back into the welfare of dogs.

I've met many breeders over the years who are breeding pets only and gripe constantly about the Kennel club and their fees. Yet they continue to register their dogs for no other reason than to be able to sell them for more money. The exact same reason puppy mills register their dogs.

I've yet to see any of those breeders put any of the money from their puppy sales into the future welfare of all purebred dogs like the kennel clubs do.
Well them breeders would put money into the welfare of their own dogs, which will mean better welfare of other dogs, I have never thought much of the KC and I don't think that I ever will. Breeders could and should though in my opinion put some of their money into the welfare of their own breeds, and I think that all the breed clubs should be better and that breeders should put money towards researching the problems in their own breed more to find out and understand the problems that there breed has. There is no doubt that breeders have got the dogs into what they are know, both modern breeders, and older breeders, so its up to the modern breeders to sort out the problems of the dogs.
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I cannot get the link to open so cannot read the article but based on my experience in pedigree dogs and breed clubs I am inclined to go with Applesmom and I too think you should do your own research.
The links not working for me now either so I don't know whats wrong with it.
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