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Old 09-28-2008, 02:25 AM   #1
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Default Is it only me? Breeders who DONT ask questions...

I dont know fi that is common here in the states

My friend Anna decided on a King cavalier a blenheim... (after reading about 200 breeds)...

so she has been looking for breeders now who does the heart xray etc etc to ensure she gets a healthy dog.

And she has emailed where she does give a long introduction etc...

BUT, the breeders are, sure, just give us the downpayment and you get a pup...

Despite titles and xrays and med checks that their dogs have got and everything I still feel fishy...

Not one has asked her to call, I asked her to ask them to tell further about the breed issues the breed has (she has told them she's a first time dog owner) and there is basically no facts coming her way, or questions or thoughts from the rbeeder.

Is this cause the breed itself are very simple to deal with? cause all rott and dobie breeders I know ask you 2000 questions about how you train, prior dog experience etc yadi yadi.

For me the alarms go off or is that behavior common here???
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:50 AM   #2
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There could be several reasons for this.

I would imagine they get a lot of inquiries that never go anywhere.

They could be just too busy to answer with long emails to someone that may or may not be serious.

They could be waiting to see if she's serious enough to offer to place a deposit before spending a lot of time on communication.

Or they're waiting to see just how interested she is and if she's going to bother to follow up.

Since she just wants a pet and is a first time dog owner, maybe they're not all that interested in placing a pup with her.

It could even be something that she said in her introduction!

Or they just don't care!
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Old 09-28-2008, 07:24 AM   #3
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I dunno on that one, any emails I get when they say I want to ask you some questions, I reply with well I bred the dog, I want to ask YOU some questions to see if yours suitable for one of my pups.
And if they dont have the answeres i ask for then they dont get no further than that.
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Old 09-28-2008, 08:07 AM   #4
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I think is she is using the internet as a primary tool to make contact, she is going to end up with a lot of responses like the one you suggested.

A breeder who is using the internet to actively sell their pups is going to be like what you described - gimme the downpayment, I'll put you on the list.

The ones who are serious and who are more likely to screen out by asking questions are not likely to be the ones who respond via email quickly. Like apples said, they probably get a lot of emails, most of which are not serious. And they are not likely to have puppies available when someone writes.

I think if Anna is serious about getting a pup from a good breeder she should go about it differently - like go to a show and get to know the people. There's nothing like face-to-face.
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Old 09-28-2008, 09:31 AM   #5
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im unsure monkey but as u prob no we have had 2 king charles spainels and both have died before they reached there first birthday. so i would strongly suggest she gets all the info otherwise not to bother. king charles have so many problems as she is obv aware.
all that bieng said i dont regret owning 2 king charles even tho we were left heartbroken they are gorgeous dogs and so loving and such a good temprement easy to train great rnd kids its just a shame all the health problems they can have.
good luck to your friend anna. if she does go for a king charles from a breder make sure she goes with a list of questions and to see all the papers and BOTH parents if possible.
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There could be several reasons for this.

I would imagine they get a lot of inquiries that never go anywhere.

They could be just too busy to answer with long emails to someone that may or may not be serious.

They could be waiting to see if she's serious enough to offer to place a deposit before spending a lot of time on communication.

Or they're waiting to see just how interested she is and if she's going to bother to follow up.

Since she just wants a pet and is a first time dog owner, maybe they're not all that interested in placing a pup with her.

It could even be something that she said in her introduction!

Or they just don't care!
I would have to agree.

It also depends what all she put in the introduction email too. When I contacted 1st via email to a breeder it was easier to tell them about me, just a long email about myself, family, residence, current/previous dogs, breed experience, training, showing/titling, ect, ect. In reality there wasn't too much the breeder had left to ask because I had basically already said what would have been answers to questions or on a an application and also asked several of my own.

I agree with wanting to see if someone is serious too. A person can email, the breeder lays out the payment policy and deposit requirements. This will see if they are serious, it doesn't mean they will just take the money. They can still decide if they will or won't let a pup go to you once they see you are serious with more communication. The person looking for a pup can say they are fine with that policy and have the deposit to send and understand everything. Then the breeder can email back with the questions or to ask for a number to reach them at. Fax or email a contract or just get their other info and answer to questions first.

It could be too like applesmom said they don't care. Some breeder and kennel sites you can literally order a pup or dog off of. All you have to do is fill out an order form and payment online like buying anything else. So obviously they don't screen the pup or dog home just goes to whoever paid. Weird to me on both ends. I can see it is all for money but how does the buyer guarantee themselves that they are getting a good dog with health and temperament.
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As I've stated in other posts, I work for a breeder. I also design their website and handle all the emails- my boss is computer challenged.

I get emails all the time about puppies/adults available- all of them are given pretty much the same story- I tell them about what is available, answer questions they may have asked about the breed, and give them my boss' phone number. I don't handle sales through email, do not discuss sale price- I simply get them in contact with my boss.

Personally, I don't feel that any breeder who sets up a sale through email only is reputable. I feel they actually have to talk to them, face to face if possible. You can get a better feeling of the type of person someone is just from a conversation.

Anyway, as for finding a good Cavalier... tell your friend not to just go by what the breeders website states. In many breeds, some bad breeders have been pulling health records from other breeders sites, photoshopping some things and changing the names on them to make it appear that the record is for their dogs. Check the OFA/CERF databases online. Cavaliers have a great deal of health problems associated with them, and I'd hate for your friend to be heartbroken.
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I would steer clear of any breeder that doesn't ask lots of questions. To me anyone that doesn't ask questions, irrelevant of health tests etc, is not showing the level of commitment to their breeding program that I would expect. The more questions I was asked and the more the breeder wanted to get to know me the more inclined I would be to go for a pup from that breeder.

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